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Friday, Dec 12, 2008

We obviously know which movies are coming out over the next few years, especially the recent box-office hits in comic land. But for the most part plots are as of yet undecided. With most of the main cast bound to be the same I'd like to voice my opinion on who the new villains (and supporting cast) should be.

X-Men: This one is already facing a wall of criticism, and the very loose details have just been released. While it may sound like Origins is just going to be about the students at Xavier's school we can still hope that it will just be more of a shift from the fan favorites than an X-Men 'Twilight'. For this I would like to see the somehow continuation of Jean Grey and Scott Summers revolving around the villain Mr. Sinister and his usual following, in a setup for the next movie which would feature the same villains but with the new characters of Cable and, more prominently, Nate Grey (X-Man). Not only would the addition of Nate Grey allow for much more powerful battles to be waged, but he would also greatly contribute to any inter-series effort, especially with his ties to the rogue Spider-Man.

Spider-Man: So the world was shocked when Venom's inclusion in Spider-Man 3 was a temporary and brief incident. But this is sci-fi, and while it would be hard to bring Eddie Brock back Venom could still easily be resurrected. To make up for it, the next Spider-Man could take a truly dark tone by going the way of Batman: Dark Knight and including Carnage, Venom's truly evil spawn who's natural host is a serial killer. Venom was never purely evil, among his own species he is declared insane for not completely consuming his host. He is actually more of an anti-hero, he does the right thing, might be a little rough about it, but has a blood feud with the true hero. Spider-Man has had to take on both before, and he and Venom have had to partner up to take out hte more skilled Carnage. With Spider-Man 5 this would also be able to direct it in two great directions, one featuring the most recent Anti-Venom storyline and the other based off the Toxin storyline (full disclosure: Toxin is my favorite Spider-Man character, bit player as he is).

The Punisher: Why did this need a reboot? Here's what Marvel needs to do, go back to Thomas Jane, tell him "We were wrong. You did a good job and did not need to be rewarded by us remaking it into a piece of crap. We want you to come back and do a sequel to your version, and we promise to include you in a cross-movie story arc". Problem solved.

Iron Man: It looks like Marvel is going to go the route that would ruin the series in its second movie. The Mandarin might be a good character for a comic series, but as a movie character you might as well try to nuke the fridge while jumping the shark. While the demon in a bottle storyline may be a little risqué considering the original appealed to a younger audience it is a necessary part of the storyline that cannot be overlooked. Of course to do demon in a bottle would mean a lot more War Machine involvement. After you get the drinking problem out of the way Titanium Man would probably be the best bet for a villain, but other than that there aren't too many good choices here. But Iron Man is supposed to be about quality over quantity, so I suppose that Favreau could very well make his own villainous group, like Del Toro in Hellboy 2.

Hellboy: Who the hell knows what the series is going to do for the third and final installment? Definitely not me.

Batman: Wow, this is a first. A Batman series with a third installment? They should really do something good with this one. Early reports have the Riddler, Catwoman, and Penguin on tap, but the truth is nothing has been decided yet. Here's what I say. All three of the above are decent. A good Riddler (I like the Johnny Depp and Robert Downey rumors [but how would Downey be able to be in a Marvel and DC movie?]) with a dark side to him playing a cat-and-mouse game like in Die Hard 3 would be excellent, but to make it work it would have to be one-on-one. Catwoman and Penguin could go together (despite horrible memories from 'Returns'), Catwoman being a femme-fatal antihero (obviously), but Penguin would have to lose any comical edge he had. He would have to be a new mob boss in Gotham, completely ruthless and untouchable by anyone but the Batman. But my pick would be Bane. The only person to ever truly defeat Batman, he is physically superior, almost as skilled, and fairly intellectual. His strategy for freeing all Arkham's inmates was perfect and be great for a movie, giving a large view of the psychotic yet believable thugs held there. Whatever route they go, the one after this (4) will have to, once again, feature the Joker. It would not be the same without Heath Ledger, but the Joker is supposed to reinvent himself between outings, and there are still plenty of others who could play the role well. The two are destined to dance forever, let them dance.

Marvel: The plan is to do an Avengers movie for 2011. I believe that this is a mistake. While it would provide the background necessary, doing super-star movies has about a double-length estimate between films, not due to actual lengths, but because actors, heroes, and villains come and go. An Avengers movie would like the NFL Pro Bowl, interesting to see who gets in, but no one really wants to watch it. There would be no meat to it, no real substance. The best group storyline they could do would be to cut to the chase and do the relatively recent Civil War storyline, what I feel is the best in all comics. It might (would) have to be a multi-part series, but concurrent filming would drastically reduce time between launches to only 6-12 months. It is doable and would rock, and audiences would be able to identify characters after each part; there is no reason to do an introductory Avengers movie before you get to the meat.

Superman: This series needs to reboot with a bang to have any hopes of being reborn ever again. I don't know if there are any plot details yet, but me personally would go for territory never before staked, one overlooked for obvious reasons as a high-risk-high-reward proposition, exactly what it needs right now. I'd pick Bizarro as the villain.

Any I missed? I have an opinion for everything, just ask and ye shall receive my knowledge.

Posted by themyrmidon, 11:02pm
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The proposed Superman trilogy sounds really epic. It starts from the birth of Superman, right down to when Superman is the last person on Earth or something. So yeah, that would be the ultimate superhero trilogy.
Posted Dec 12, 2008 11:59 pm PT
X-Men was good... I'm not sure I want a fourth movie but it is sort of coming anyhow. Spiderman has outlived its welcome, did you see the 3rd one, of course you did... it was like a bad disney movie that had three sub-movies to make one long sorta movie. It have better CG though. I wouldn't miss this series disappearing.

The Punisher... never heard of it. Iron Man... I liked the first and all, but I'm not sure a second would be worth much. Hellboy, I didn't even like the first one.

Batman, ah batman. The gem of the current super-hero movies. I liked the first one. I really liked the second one. If the third one follows suit all will be good. Just remember movie people, batman has to be dark and deary to be any good. That is where the other series toasted out... when gangs started running around with glow sticks and crap.

Superman - I fell asleep in Superman Returns. I NEVER fall asleep in movies I haven't seen at least once or twice before. Superman Returns was able to do the impossible with me. As such I won't bother with anything else coming from this series.

I think they should bring back daredevil.... HAHA, sorry, just a joke. No one is that insane.
Posted Dec 13, 2008 8:35 am PT
Growing up I never got into comics that much, except for the WW2 ones back in the 70's which I don't know if those even exist anymore. However, I have enjoyed some of the Batman and X-Men movies, and I completely agree with you concerning Thomas Jane, I thought he was great as The Punisher.
Posted Dec 18, 2008 7:55 am PT
I have many of the old comix and the movies are nothing like them.

Hellboy was great - too many sequels are always a mistake though.

The worst of the bunch is x-men - that is nothing like it should be.
Always a mistake to try and add social messages and get political in a movie that is supposed to be good fun and kick - ass beat em up stuff. Instead of pounding sense into the bad guy it never works to talk nice to them. Some Hollywood liberal activists had Gitmo on the brain. We don't want it in the movies too.

Iron man the same....first one fantastic - - second meh...any more is a mistake.

MIchael Keaton was the best batman and Cesar Romero the most fun as a Joker. He is the only one who did the part correctly. A nutcase not a psycho that kills innocent people for fun ..... after all the original character is from a childrens comic book and is from the funny pages not a horror movie which is how Heath Ledger played the part. He was a great actor but the Dark Knight changed Batman from a childrens comic story to a late night horror flick. That thing was screwed up by the writers.
Posted Jan 3, 2009 12:38 pm PT
It doesnt stop at comic books I hear. They want to make a live action Akira with Leonardo Dicaprio playing lead (kanade or tetsuo i forget which one). Of course that was announced a few years ago and there is no word as of yet, but quite posssible giv en that god awful dragon balls movie that just came out. I am sort of out of the loop when it comes to comic book movies. I didn't grow up reading comic books and even now I still don't because I find it confusing trying to figure whos saying what and when. Honestly though they've all lost interest for me. I do go with the general concensus on the dark knight. I did like that movie. I even paid the extra 2 dollars and something for the 2 disc special, and coming from someone as cheap as me thats something special.
Posted Jul 7, 2009 5:56 pm PT
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