I know this sounds strange, but, I mostly use my Wii for the Virtual Console. The few actual Wii games I play and/or want are Gamecube controller/Classic controller compatible. This would include BRAWL and upcoming TMNT Smash Up and Tatsunoko vs Capcom. The Conduit, Medal of Honor 3, CoD 4 and Metroid Prime 3 make decent use the Wii-mote. But aside from rail-shooters (HotD2&3, HotD Overkill, REUC) I'm not a big fan of the Wii-mote. Thus, the fact that Grand Slam sucked doesn't shock me at all. Sorry.

controls have been hit and miss on the Wii a lot. At least you have the right idea, I think motion control should be limited to sports games. They just don't have any relevance beyond that.

@nate1222 No offense taken! That's your perrogative. I have not been a fan of the Wii-mote either but I'm a fan of Wii Motion Plus. Grand Slam gave me a bad impression but Tiger Woods (with WM+) is a ton a fun...and I have never bought a golf game in my life until now....I couldn't fathom playing golf on a regular controller pad....but people do.

@raahsnavj I think motion control, if done right, can make games work past its novelty. It's just too bad that the Wii never had 1:1 controls to begin with. A bunch of 3rd party shovelware and the typical casual gamer eating it up never helped either.

@smbius
I may take a wack at Tiger Woods (Wii) simply because I trust your taste in games. And I agree with your response to raahsnavj's comment. 3rd parties treating the Wii like a damn gimmick box isn't helping matters. I understand Nintendo trying to "broaden the market" by catering to cassies. But do core gamers have to get left in the cold - or can Nintendo strike a decent balance? That's the real challenge for the big 'N' at this point. Gaming DOES need to reach the level of acceptance of other forms of entertainment (movies, music, books), and casual gaming is key to that. But core and hardcore gamers drive/drove the market when NOONE ELSE will/would. I see some hope here, though. Games like Resident Evil Dark Chronicles, The Conduit, TMNT Smash Up, Tatsunoko vs Capcom and plenty of the DS/DSi line-up are showing real promise. I love my Wii and PS2. I play PS2 a little more than Wii right now. But I play my DSi more than either of them!

I should've waited to read your review before I purchased GST. I feel the exact same way and I'm very disappointed. Tiger 10 is way better than this game and I'm not even a real golfer--mainly because MotionPlus works for that game. I definitely think this game pisses off real tennis players more than non-players. I'm looking forward to Virtua Tennis mainly because I don't think it can get any worse than this. Additionally, more realistic graphics and a $10-cheaper price tag should help ease my pain if that turns out to be a letdown too. Perhaps I'll wait for your review before I buy...

@nate1222
IMHO the PS2 is the last best gaming system out there.

@WiZeGuY4505
I've been playing VT2009 for a couple of hours now. It's definitely less frustrating than GST. I will be uploading pics of both games soon. After a thorough run with the game and adjusting to the WMP on VT2009, I will be putting out a review pretty soon. Fans of the GST game who swear by that game have either 1.) pretended to play it and/or 2.) are impressed more by Wii Motion Plus than the game itself. For the couple of hours I've spent on VT2009, I think player control and placement is whole lot better. However, I'll be honest here. The motion controls are alot more forgiving than they should be. Serving is definitely a learning curve in itself but it's a short curve. Virtua Tennis makes pretty good use of recognizing top spins, lobs, and volleys...at least as of this writing, slicing and drop shots have been very difficult - and this is a learning curve I'm willing to partake as long as VT does its part by not allowing A.I. or miscued motion get in the way. So far so good.

@smbius
Have you tried GST using the nunchuck as well? I have not tried it yet but many of the pro-GST or "GST-masters" seem to agree that it makes the player placement more accurate which results in better control of your shots. Hopefully, I will try it tonight and see what happens... But the fact that the AI controlled player seems to do what ever he feels like definitely was definitely driving me nuts during my first couple of hours with the game. Regarding online-many are saying that it works like a charm and that was not my personal experience either... lot of skip frames (as with regular play), opponent shots out of the blue, when the image was showing that the opposing player was still and w/o any movement indication that he was going to hit the ball... just plain weird. Again, I am giving the game the benefit of the doubt until I try some of these recommendations by some of those for whom the game seems to work... Anyway, the point being... have you tried any of those recommendations (e.g. nunchuck, etc)?

@cesarcor I have tried every recommendation for GST. Having said that, I'd have to say that some recommendations are just far-fetched since other GST gamers (from EA boards) and myself are not experiencing what others have claimed on Gamespot's boards. When playing online, we all use the Nunchuk. It helps but sadly your character will still not recognize backhands from forehands. With a short cord, I end up mostly waggling the controller. Online GST masters end up using the Nunchuk, throw up lobs and go up to the net to put away the game quickly. Although you'll be more successful at winning the games with this control, it just defeats the purpose. This is pretty much like playing tennis games online with the 360 or PS3. Again, this is just me since I play tennis in real life.

@smbius-good to hear about your experience after trying the nunchuck and other of the recommendations. After using the nunchuck I'd have to say the error rate when trying to hit backhand vs. forehand has been reduced; which to me is the most frustrating thing when the AI is controlling the movements. Actually first time in my life I have felt like smashing the darn wiimote with M+. It was also good to hear about your experience with VT09, which I have not tried yet. Even though I agree with most of your ratings for GST, at least on my personal experience, the slice works fairly consistently... I have a harder time getting the flat shots to work. It's either topspin or slice for me pretty much. In any case the need for frequent calibrations of the M+ thing is what I really do not like. Is that an issue with VT09 as well? Thanks for all the information you have posted, it is very useful.

Hi there! Any change in your opinion/review of the game after putting some more time into it. I'd have to say that after watching the "re-centering" your wiimote with W+ video and trying it out, the difference was enormous from my first impression. It is still not perfect but is definitely a lot less frustrating, have been controlling the shot type and direction much better. There is still the ocassionally going out of sync but has been minimal and the over-running of the ball when your player movement is controlled by the AI still happens at times. Nevertheless, after playing three GSs (still playing on easy) the game has definitely has gained some points on my score.