After reading a couple of debates about whether or not Boroque and/or Romantic music were actually to be considered in the 'classical' music genre, I ran across a good quote:
"Just about every musical "movement" is misleading. It's rarely a movement of people getting together and saying "Hey, dudes, let's get Baroque on everyone's ass", it's just composers wanting to get paid for their work, and jumping on bandwagons of new, popular writing styles, and someone comes along years later and says "Hey, those dudes were like really Baroque in style" and their buddies go "Yeah, dude" "
The ****cal era was a small point in time between 1750 and 1820. Personally, I prefer 20th century music (like Stravinsky, Penderecki etc.) and some romantic (Satie, Debussy etc.). It's all about whatever sounds good to you though. Jazz actually pulled allot of it's theory from the romantic period, although 20th century harmonies really influences some of the more technical musicians. It should be duly noted that all genres sort of bleed together. Many people don't understand that, especially after reading a couple of comments in the Wikipedia section on Art Rock:
"Sonic Youth as Art Rock? Joni Mitchell? six million indie and electronica bands? I don't think so. 90% of the bands listed on here are not near experimental enough to be considered Art Rock. King Crimson, Yes, Pink Floyd, and Deerhoof fit well enough. So does Phillip Glass. But The Talking Heads and Queen? You've got to be kidding me. They're almost pop bands compared to King Crimson. For modern Art Rock look more at bands like the extremely experimental anti-pop Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Idiot Flesh. Others I would include are Estradasphere, Secret Cheifs 3, Don Caballero, John Zorn, Hella, even Mike Patton projects Mr. Bungle and Fantomas, maybe even Tom Waits, but The Yeah Yeah Yeahs? Interpol? The Arcade Fire? What praytell are they experimenting with? Their own success? Sounding nearly the same as their contemporaries? I love these bands, but they are in no way art rock or experimental. READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE PAGE "ART ROCK" "
as a note, this album was based on a famous murdering in 1957
What annoys me is that art rock is a mainstream definition of rock with an art asthetic to it. I will admit, it's a dodgy definition (because it's a subgenre). It's dodginess means that it can only be defined by popular persuasion. Because of this, mainstream bands like Mute Math and Arcade Fire have been officially declared art rock bands. It angers me even more that a good majority of the artists this guy mentioned would be offended if they were categorized at all...
It's called the 'no wave' movement, and while we've been forced to give many bands like Sonic Youth or the Sic Alps titles such as Noise Rock or Noise Pop, that has only come about with the disgusting human habit to label absolutely everything from the color of our toenails to that icky feeling in our stomachs when we eat a good pile of baby back ribs with that special barbeque sauce (I would also like to mention that we've given about 9 to 12 names for that stuff that comes out afterwords. I think that's because it's still taboo to say sh!t... oops.) my bad.
In other news, Them Crooked Vultures has released several clips of their studio recordings. I'm still left on edge, but a little part of me is satisfied with the fact that it will be a great rock album, if anything note-worthy at all. My fingers will be crossed until I can sit down and listen to the album.
and finally,
Nobody Loves Me and Niether Do I
But because none of those are full songs, they don't count as singles. The big song that's changed my life is the Sic Alp's "Bells". It's only a 1:30 minute song, but it hits you like a brick wall. Also, be warned that the video has lots of flashing lights and images. If you have epilepsy, I would listen to the song without the video. 
This duo is known as the Sic Alps.
Enjoy the music, and continue gaming. I'd like to quickly recommend Fat Princess to any PS3 users. It's only 14 dollars (probably cheaper in pounds). My friends and I sat for hours playing it--great fun.
peace out,
-nick
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On a side note about classical music, do you believe that mass production and over-playing singular pieces from a certain artist devalues the piece?
In other terms: just because you hear Beethoven's 9th or Fur Elise on 10,000 ring tones and shopping mall intercoms, does it make it any less brilliant? I hear some argue as though it does. I don't think so. Just because I'm sick of it doesn't make it any less good. Hm.
Obsessed labellers as elitists...kinda funny.
There is little sense in arguing over what to label something when you are using vague terms such as "art." Art is subjective, as we all know. So what if Queen is art or not? Goofballs...they are all goofballs!
Also, what does that goof have against Sonic Youth!? Art or not, those guys are insanely creative and prolific! Not to mention unique and inspiring. The goof seems to think what he "likes" must be art, and what he does not like must be beneath him. He is the worst kind of elitist, the dumb kind
I enjoyed the music samples, by the way, I always do. Sic Alps have great tone, man.
My biggest issue comes with people getting militant crazy over Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers n' whatnot (american pop groups). I don't like em' as much as the next guy, but getting angry over it is impractical, as the practice of music is impractical. My sister enjoys em' and she can enjoy them if she wants. That's her personal preference, and that doesn't make her any less of a human being for it.
btw, I presume your trip was enjoyable?
I had the opportunity to give a few mini-concerts on my acoustic guitar, at the camp fire, late at night. I just love to hit those strings with all my might!
I also got to drive a motor boat on the lake for awhile. It was the kind you steer from the back of the boat with just one handle for changing the direction of the propeller.
Great stuff. You really forget about everything when you're out in the wild. I highly recommend it!
grigjd3