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Thursday, Jul 12, 2007

This is written off the cuff, more as a rant than anything else. It isn't as well organized as I usually write, but that's to be expected. I just need to get this off of my chest about the recent E3 performance, particularly how Sony performed this year vs. Nintendo and how that contrasts with previous years' performances.

Judging Sony's presentation strictly as a show, it was SO much better than what the other two companies put out there. It was energetic, fast-paced, wasn't built on a numbers game, and showed new things I hadn't really seen before. I know the PSP redesign isn't fantastic, but I really liked it personally. I like its smaller design, that they kept the screen size, extended the battery life, and added a feature to use it as a console so you can play the games on your TV while at home. Given that that's the way I prefer to play any handheld (except for the DS), I really appreciated that feature. Hell they had Chewbacca, and that simple PSP game they showed where the physics of your environment changes based on the player's viewing angle -- I almost had a nerdgasm for those two things alone. But the biggest thing is that, unlike last year's Sony show, this year's didn't work as hard on offending my sensitibilities with viral marketing ads. Regardless of whether or not you liked or were impressed by what Sony showed, they very clearly took charge and made the experience one of strictly showing what they had to offer rather than endlessly talking about numbers.

My worst memory of the Sony show from last year was that stupid and needlessly long montage video of "real people on the street" talking about how great Sony was. It stinks of treating gamers like dumbies who can't identify a viral marketing ad when they see one. It had a huge negative reaction from gamers similar to the reaction from that dumb "I want a PSP for Christmas" website they set up which came back to bite them in the behind only five months later. This year I think they learned their lesson, but Nintendo seems to have failed to learn it by observation. I honestly hated that Nintendo had to follow suit this year and put those dumb youtube-esque video montages up -- not just one mind you -- every time that Reggie wanted to take a break, there was yet another low-IQ commercial popping up there full of viral marketing hype. It was so Sony-from-last-year's-E3 -- they almost made me feel played to. I think just by removing those dumb things they could have improved their presentation -- that's how much of a negative I think they were.

I love Nintendo's direction. I really do. It's my favorite console this gen. so far. I don't like being negative about Nintendo. But that conference was simply underwhelming, with the only thing saving it from being a total loss being that they showed clips from some of their anticipated upcoming games, showed some new peripherals and games that looked interesting, and gave a real timeline for online play experiences. Even then, the gameplay they showed of Zelda DS and Metroid Prime 3 was so short and full of talk, that it was hardly noticeable -- it almost seemed like an ad for that couple's "hardcore gaming website" more than a glimpse of those games. I doubt the time they spent showing actual gameplay during those segments was as long as even one of those youtube-esque video montages. Now obviously, the "hardcore gaming website" couple were brought on stage and featured in a video because Nintendo is concerned that they might lose that group of people. But you don't do that by adding more wallpaper to your marketing presentation -- you do it by SHOWING us what you have coming up that caters to us.

I believe that this year Sony had the best presentation. They may not have "stolen the show" overall the way Nintendo did last year, but their presentation was the most enjoyable and did the least to insult my intelligence. And even after all I said about Nintendo's show, I could easily say much more negative about Microsoft's, which I thought was even worse with all the dubious number throws that were intended to prove to me that Microsoft is "driving the industry", while targetting becoming the new Wii with a Disney sign-on. Obviously I still think Nintendo has the better overall direction, at least from a business standpoint, and my comments here are strictly related to the show they put on at E3. But that's really what E3 is anyway -- a show, and the level at which a particular company talks down to its audience in their part of that show has always been one of the biggest factors for me.

I think what I am looking for in that kind of show is excitement -- a clear, compact, and fast-paced presentation of exciting things to come in the future. In the past, Nintendo was clearly on the prowl in their shows. They intended to steal the show, and they did it, even though they weren't sure at that point they would win the market. They had no marketshare to lose and could only really go up rather than down. There was this energy to it that the other two didn't have. Now it seems like it's been reversed. Nintendo almost seemed like it was in protectionist mode, like they were doing their best to protect their new marketshare from intrusion rather than keep it by demonstrating it was viable for the future. As someone who really believes it is viable, I find the failure to demonstrate it on stage to be almost inexcusible. I wish they remembered from before that the best way to do that is by showing us real things that are coming up in thick, long segments that concentrate on them as new content to be excited about, instead of viral marketing displays and number crunches.

In the vast scheme of things, it's better that Nintendo has actually gained marketshare this time around and lost the E3 performance rather than the inverse condition, which has been prevalent for the last couple of years. But Nintendo needs to remember that E3 was one of the biggest vehicles for their current success. It was at trade shows like E3 that they were able to demonstrate their direction and generate the interest they are currently enjoying. It got their ideas out there and showed they were viable. The best approach is not to tell us your numbers and how viable you are from a financial perspective -- let us, the buying public worry about that. Instead, show us what you have coming down the pipeline. Convince us that you have things worth taking a look at, things that are coming in the future, things we won't want to ignore. We don't need another hard sell at our door with you wearing your Sunday best and handing out quasi-religious pamphlets about the Kingdom of God. We want to see the Kingdom in action.

Category: Editorial
Posted by m0zart, 10:13am
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Wow, you're completely correct. I also was expecting more from Nintendo, but Sony definately won this year.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 10:49 am PT
you forgot to add that even though that they did a good job for what they had, the PS3 has no future.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:04 am PT
I can't really say if there was a winner... it felt right to see each company offer what they knew they could provide. Each experience from each company could be looked at as something different for numerous gamers, but all I see is options and tons of goodies
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:22 am PT
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for writing and taking the time to do so, this really goes out to all of you.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:35 am PT
I thought each show had their moments. Sony had Chewbaca, who is the coolest mofo outside of Bigfoot (aka god), Jack Tretton just seemed real, and NO NUMBERS. Haze was also the one FPS in the show that stood out to me.

MS showed a bunch of games that appeal to me, the LIVE ARCADE had a sweet line-up, they gave me Golden Axe right then, and Peter Moore showing off Rock Band was pretty funny. However, minus for the numbers and the Disney explosion.

Nintendo wouldn't stfu about how godly they're doing (Apple, anyone? ugh), but they showed some great footage of Super Mario Galaxy (Why I have a Wii), the Zapper was pretty cool (I love ligh gun games), and although disgusted with the stretches at first, Wii Fitness started lookin pretty cool. Then again, I'm also big into Health.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:39 am PT
Actually, I thought Nintendo did a great job. As a married man, I'm excited for Wii Fit (maybe I can get the wife on board, too). I also think their newly-kindled relationship with Square Enix is positive, and look forward to Dragon Quest's return to Nintendo. The steering wheel and "Zapper" are just pieces of injection-molded plastic, but everyone needs a steering wheel and light gun for their console, right?

Metroid looks as though it is going to be excellent, and Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. are looking strong. On top of all their existing creative games like Cooking Mama and Wii Sports, online play with Mario Kart is coming up, what else is the hardcore gamer looking for, aside from graphical power?

Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all had fine conferences with what I'd expected: rehashing success and touting future titles. None of them really, "won."
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:48 am PT
Well I found all three to have been lacking and i attribute that to this years e3 format but if you liked what sony did then there has to be something wrong with you all they did was show games we already knew about for a while and a psp remodel that was known about for quite some time .
So yeah if that what you think is great hey thats your opinion,But to me they all lacked in excitement and konami said it best about bringing back the old e3.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:54 am PT
Ill stick with Microsoft thanks. None of those Nintendo games will look like anything special to me - the only way it's coming to my house is it my son want s one. Consedering the lineup MS has - I have no need for anything else
Posted Jul 12, 2007 11:58 am PT
jasoneg25 wrote:
Well I found all three to have been lacking and i attribute that to this years e3 format ...


The E3 format probably affected the organization of the show overall, but I don't see how it could have affected the stage performance, which looks basically just like it always did. No, I don't think we can blame these failures on E3's format change, at least not in this case.

jasoneg25 wrote:
So yeah if that what you think is great hey thats your opinion,But to me they all lacked in excitement and konami said it best about bringing back the old e3.


As I stated clearly in my post, the presentation of your show really matters in this case. How you organize what you are going to show is all-important, and how you wrap it up in anchors that will help keep the events fresh is also critical to a show. Chewbacca was an anchor -- an anchor that will allow people to remember things they SHOULD remember but maybe wouldn't have without such an anchor. And Chewbacca did that because he was entertaining. His presence might have been lighthearted and silly, but one thing he was not was insulting.

Compare that with Nintendo's viral marketing vids shown at the show, which will only be remembered in the same vein as Sony's "on the street" vids from last year's E3, and their pathetic "I want a PSP for Christmas" website written in dawg-speak. These things cannot be compared with Nintendo's rather viral public campaign, which is excellently done and keeps people interested, such as the "Wii Want to Play" commercials. No, these are dividable into two completely different classes of effort and effect.

A year from now, I think many are going to remember Nintendo's videos with a smirk, and not a good smirk at that. And worse, they aren't going to remember the games and direction that Nintendo intended to use them to anchor into. I don't think people are going to forget that Sony came in with nothing and showed a lot of stuff worth seeing, and by that time, that most of it wouldn't come until 2008 will be a non-issue. And that's the difference between a good show that gets its point across in an entertaining fashion, and one that bores the tears out of you, or worse even makes you feel a good bit talked down to.

I actually think Microsoft and Nintendo made similar mistakes this year. They both had a LOT to show really, things that could have really caught my interest, and to some extent they did, but not to the extent they could have. These were games that could have sold themselves with more footage, but they both mired so much of their presentation in a flawed campaign to sell me how great they were in the market, with each one trying to convince me that they are the driving forces, that the effect was lost. They could have done that much better with less figures and more gameplay footage.

Heck, think of what a great set of games that Microsoft and Nintendo have for the remainder of this year that they could have made a bigger focus -- and instead I am left giggling at the show overall and barely remembering the gameplay footage I saw. The awkwardness of their presentations was also a factor. Seriously, if Reggie says "I know what you guys are thinking" in that sarcastic chagrin while doing that quote/un-quote thing with his hands one more time, I am going to start tuning him out.

It didn't matter if Sony had less to show, they did the best at showing it. They spent less time talking and more showing what they had. I think hard about what I have interest in -- it isn't just some automatic reaction I get based on ideas planted into my mind directly from the pens of imprint-marketers. Just show me the things I am going to buy and not just the ideas you want me to buy into, minimize the talking, throw in some entertaining bits (that don't talk down to me), and I'll be happy.

Ensabuhnur wrote:
Ill stick with Microsoft thanks. None of those Nintendo games will look like anything special to me - the only way it's coming to my house is it my son want s one. Consedering the lineup MS has - I have no need for anything else


Well then I suggest you write about that in a separate thread or blog. I don't know what your preference for Microsoft has to do with this particular blog, which is speaking to the E3 performances, not your preferences.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:26 pm PT
Yea, I was pretty let down by Nintendo's announcements this year. I was waiting till after E3 to see if I should get a Wii or 360 (not interested in the PS3... well wasn't anyway), but now I feel like it's not my "cup of tea". Even without the Wii-mote, other companies seem to be getting more. I see more effort put into games coming out on other consoles and not just because the graphics look nicer but because the developers want to. I'm seeing little heart put into the Wii from 3rd parties and Nintendo's conference showed the same thing for the 1st party. That's just my opinion on it anyway.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:37 pm PT
Really I can't lean towards anyone in the war right now. Anyone can shoot forward but the PS3 is really taking big hits right now. As for the conferance this might be what they need to bring them some points.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:38 pm PT
I agree, as much as I don't like putting down Nintendo, this was the worst E3 I've seen them perform.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:46 pm PT
I will admit that Nintendo's show was a disappointment to me. Nintendo played with my emotions with Smash bros brawl coming out in December. I mean yea during this time they can make it better, but I was kinda expecting the game to come out in August. Oh well. I can wait.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:49 pm PT
i haven't seen all of the sony conference so i won't comment on that...but how can u think ms conference was so much worse than nintendo's
nintendo wouldn't shutup about with their number charts and i found it despicable how they tried to console hardcore gamers by saying they haven't been forgotten, but they never showed any convincing evidence to prove this effort and they merely sidestepped the issue. then the zapper...which goes back to the whole wii will have the best fps games....but where are THEY!!!! the ones that have come out suck and they only had a short clip of the new resident evil game to show.
overall i didn't like nintendo's conference, it felt more like reminiscing about the past and what they've done and even the new peripherals were gimmicky and not all that revolutionary(except for the fitness thing, but still gimmicky though)
i guess its just a matter of what ur expecting...i wanted to see games and ms delivered well on that ...even thought they did have charts they got through all that business mumbo jumbo rather quickly.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:57 pm PT
PhearPheonix you forgot to add that even though that they did a good job for what they had, the PS3 has no future.

Clearly this is an opinion, but what facts can you back this up by? When the cube only sold about 24 million units compared to the ps2's 200 million, did that show that Ninty had NO future?

Anyway's I thourghly (did i spell that right?) enjoyed reading this. I felt the same way as well. I own a Wii, and my sister (18 years old, and has NEVER touched a console of mine in her life!) has a DS now, and loves playing my wii (no pun pervs!!). But reading up on Sony's and Ninty's shows I just sat there and was like "ummm this is like an hour and a half show of people just slapping eachother on the back and shaking hands". I'm tired of console wars soooo bad, it's an imaginary pissing contest, so I won't even go there. I'm talking about E3 alone, just like you. I'm digressing now, so I'll shut up. Great points, and like Hideo Kojima said....."I hope they will bring back my E3".
Posted Jul 12, 2007 12:59 pm PT
dude i thought the Sony press conference was more boring than Nintendo's. I am not going to speak about MS's conference because i only saw like the last 30 min. of it.
I'm not sure if we were watching the same thing, but Sony's conference moved so slow compared to nintendo's. So slow, in fact, that I got so bored that I turned off the tv. Maybe it was because they were showing stuff that most people don't care about.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:09 pm PT
Of course Sony did not go into numbers this year, as they haven't done aswell as Nintendo or Microsoft for that matter.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:13 pm PT
PhearPheonix you forgot to add that even though that they did a good job for what they had, the PS3 has no future.
Clearly this is an opinion, but what facts can you back this up by? When the cube only sold about 24 million units compared to the ps2's 200 million, did that show that Ninty had NO future?

I'm sorry but i have to step in here... Clearly you don't read what people write. He's saying that the Playstation 3 has no future, not Sony themselves.
I personally agree with him and i think that Sony has fallen too far behind and should begin work on their next generation console so they can make it cheap yet great. I also agree with him because many big games that were PS3 exclusive are or may not be exclusive anymore (i.e. DMC4 and possibly MGS4).
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:18 pm PT
I enjoyed the sony press event the most, mostly cause wipeout is back! The psp with a video output is a nice touch also. (also the MGS4 and UT exclusives were pretty big bombs)

Mircosoft was ok, im not a big halo fan, but getting a look at the other upcoming games was fun to watch. Mass effect looks godly, cant wait for bioshock either.

Nintendo's wii zaper and steerwheel are a few things I may pick up (with RE and Mario cart of course). Wii fit while a neat idea is just not my cup of tea, make a snowboard game with that puppy and I might just pick it up.

Closing thoughts: Sony's was slightly better then microsoft's, and nintendo's in comes in last with more commericals then upcoming game video's.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:19 pm PT
Honestly. All three disappointed me. I'll vote for Microsoft's, not because it was a better show but because they didn't use all their marbles at once (that was only this year's stuff) and because Sony won't stop blabbering on about how the PS2 was greatest console of all time and blablabla... that really irritates me.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:42 pm PT
Well it's pretty hard for Sony to show the financial statistics of their products if no statistics will show any sign of market growth in their product. Sony were beaten by Nintendo and Microsoft in sales this fiscal year so if they put that up on a screen that would just generate the wrong kind of interest anyway. However, I think Sony's press conference was the best of the three but I still believe that if they had numbers to show, they would have show them.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:46 pm PT
Even with all the stigma attached to Sony's name right now, I have to say I agree.
Sure, Nintendo has an awesome handheld and console, but its Conference was essentially a snore-fest. Too much talk directed to non-gamers and a whole lot of "reflecting" on their success. It's good to know that there's another Mario Kart coming, but it's by no means anything new since they've had one for practically every Nintendo console since the SNES.
Sony's conference on the other hand showed a lot more game footage, which is always a plus for the gamer. It's really a shame though, we didn't get to see any new footage for FFXIII, or even The Last Remnant by Square-Enix for the PS3. After all, there isn't much else I look for from a Sony console other MGS4.

Oh, and what Astaroth_Slayer says is probably right. Seeing Sony's financial status right now, they probably wouldn't want to put up statistics since it would only generate negative PR (Not that Sony ever has positive PR).
Posted Jul 12, 2007 1:59 pm PT
Ok, I will admit that this was not one of Nintendo's best E3 shows. Maybe the new format is to blame. Sony was the first one to move for a smaller E3, and perhaps they know something I dont that makes this new format work to their advantage better. I will say overall, this whole E3 was disappointing. Compared to last year's announcements, this year just did not have as much to look forward to. Maybe that is because this generation just started, and things are still being created. Who knows? To Imaroustabout, ps2 has not sold 200 million ps2's, not even close. It has sold a little over 100 million, get your facts straight. I do think Nintendo should have shown more trailers and gameplay of its huge games though, Super Smash, Metroid, Mario Galaxy. I think the thing that hurts Nintendo the most is with the old E3 there were 50,000 plus fans all getting their hands on Nintendo products, playing them, and then going back and telling the rest of the gaming world how awesome their experiences were. Here, gaming press just get to look at a screen. So of course just from looks alone, Nintendo's stuff is gonna fall flat compared to PS3's and 360's high end graphics. Sony prolly will be remembered as the best this year just because of the new redesigned PSP, which looks pretty good. Once the bugs are out of that one, it looks like the one to buy. I think 149.99 is the magic price point for it, but we will see what Sony does with it. I am still on Nintendo's side this generation around, and hope that with the next wave of games coming this holiday season, critics will finally be shut up about the faults they like to harp on.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 2:08 pm PT
The last two sentences were quite awesome.
And your point is right completely, Nintendo was ridiculously underwhelming this year. At least they got the release dates set tho.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 2:09 pm PT
Also, does anyone else find it ironic how Sony is trying to prove how underpowered Nintendo's software and hardware are, but the way they try to prove that is with Little Big Planet, a game that has cutesy graphics but fun gameplay???
Posted Jul 12, 2007 2:20 pm PT
Nintendo's press conference was one of the most boring things to sit through, since my grad. I'm just glad I could browse the web while they droned on about how great they are. I actually tuned out most of it and only paid attention when something about gaming came up. Yes it is a GAMES trade show, not a shareholder's convention, keep that in mind for next time nintendo.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 2:45 pm PT
I think most of you are missing the meat of the differences between this years presentations and previous years. They aren't trying to impress "us" anymore. Because of they way E3 is now done, they were dealing with a full crowd of marketing and press: jaded, broken gamers who have to sift through all the hype to find the meat and potatoes of a given presentation and try to summarize it all for a bottom line pitch to another person who isn't a gamer.

You say it was boring, I say it was targeted.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 2:47 pm PT
Although Wii Fit was actually awsome when you play it, I completely agree.

Nintendo was just targeting the casual people that were at the press that day. Many that werein that conference room were not from gaming websites, but journalist for the New York Times, USA Today, etc.

So Nintendo had to choose which one to please, a gaming website that has about 6 million viewers, to a newspaper that over 60 million people read.

I do wish they had taken the former, though.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 2:54 pm PT
Its True Sony Won This Year . And Nintendo Realy Sucked !
Posted Jul 12, 2007 3:11 pm PT
Kirjath_Emet wrote:
I think most of you are missing the meat of the differences between this years presentations and previous years. They aren't trying to impress "us" anymore. Because of they way E3 is now done, they were dealing with a full crowd of marketing and press: jaded, broken gamers who have to sift through all the hype to find the meat and potatoes of a given presentation and try to summarize it all for a bottom line pitch to another person who isn't a gamer.

You say it was boring, I say it was targeted.


I am willing to accept that they did want to hit a different audience than just hardcore gamers, and were targetting them. But that wasn't the only target of the viral marketing nonsense they did. The couple from the "hardcore gaming website" was clearly an attempt to appear viable to the hardcore. Reggie also tried to make it clear that Nintendo's core audience was still the youthful hardcore gaming crowd. The problem is that their methods of doing so were not built on highlighting the content, but rather on a good bit of prestidigitation. Again, that's insulting to me as someone in that crowd of hardcore gamers. I don't really want to be played to in that way. I want to see the goods. I don't mind if those parts of the conference that play to their new target audience were completely focused on that crowd, and I don't even mind if 80% of the conference is dedicated to that, but don't think you're going to convince me that you have the hardcore gamer in mind by putting a couple that run a "hardcore gaming web site" that I've never heard of on stage for what amounts to less than a few minutes each to play a very untelling portion of two amazing games.

Nintendo's approach to the market doesn't worry me at all. Their approach to their E3 presentation is what bothers me here. Nintendo spent a LOT of that conference trying to convince people they were still for the hardcore despite their new market-expanding focus. And they did it by throwing numbers and demographics out in a failed attempt to prove concept, and parading a grass roots gaming site on stage in a failed attempt to build rapport, when they could have just showed us the games to prove real commitment.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 3:19 pm PT
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Posted Jul 12, 2007 3:23 pm PT
Although I agree with some of your comments, I don't think that Sony really did anything better than the other two presentations. For those of us who aren't forty year old, overweight basement dwelling Star Wars loving nerds, Sony didn't do much new either. One new colour of the PSP. Game Boy Color had 6 different colors how many years ago? A Star Wars PSP for an additional $30? No Thanks. Connecting the PSP to a TV, I think I remember something called the Game Boy Player on the Gamecube, or maybe it was the Super Game Boy on the Super Nintendo? Hmm, simply deja vu I guess. Chewbacca... there aren't going to be any more movies, please die already furball. Sony did have a good pace going I admit, and I did love the new MGS4 trailer, heck, some of the Home features were even pretty cool, but that's where it ends for me. The games that they did show on PSP looked like crap, especially the Star Wars Battlefron game looking like a bad PS1 game. The only thing I give Sony credit for was the price drop, (still not affordable for me, but close) the quantity of games, and the exclusives that remain exclusives (MGS4). But wait, Nintendo's system costs half that, they have tons of great exclusives, and Microsoft can throw out 300 games a year even. If anything this was a lackluster preformance all around. Blame it on the new format, and the fact that people in the industry, not FANS, were the ones mainly in attendance.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 3:25 pm PT
nintendo is the future, Sony is the past
Posted Jul 12, 2007 3:47 pm PT
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. I think one of Nintendo's biggest faults was that their presentation seemed to be targeted more towards casual gamers, which is the untapped audience they are trying to get with the Wii system. Unfortunately for them, the casual gamers and non-gamers don't watch E3 press conferences, so they ended up making fools of themselves to the average hardcore gamer.

I especially agree with you about those youtube montages, I found them extremely insulting to my intelligence, and in some ways they almost disgusted me. I do have genuine interest in buying a Wii, but after viewing their presentation I'm putting that interest on hold until I see a crystal clear bright future, instead of a slightly cloudy and uncertain future that I am currently seeing from them.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 4:43 pm PT
Of course Sony's show can't be compared to their last year's debacle. Overall no presentation really surpassed another since the approaches are so different. Microsoft stick to the ground with Halo 3 and strongly supporting both the PC and X360. Nintendo targets the same fan base + additional families with innovative accessories; and Sony displayed lots of upcoming games ( many slated later in 2008 ), rather much violent and no word about FF. No uppercuts.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 4:43 pm PT
I hated the "gamers on the street" deal too. I'm a bit impressed with Sony's re-do of the PSP as well, but that's off-topic. I think, personally, E3 is deteriorating each year, with the morale from each publisher.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 5:16 pm PT
Sony concentrated on the games, which is what they're missing, and what they know they need, they already did the price cut, now they're bringing on the games, frankly I'm really surprised by all the right decisions they've made recently.

The wii has been receiving a lot of criticism lately, that it only has mini game compilations, so I started getting pumped when I saw the "zapper", and expected it to be followed by some footage of it being used in metroid, followed by MAD applause, I was VERY VERY disappointed !

Then I thought they'll show some AMAZING new footage of super mario galaxy, again DISAPPOINTED! With sony on the other hand, I found myself getting pumped for games I wasn't really looking forward to before, let's hope Sony lives up to my new expectations.

Oh, and the psp seems to have a great lineup coming up, for the DS they only showed zelda, which is cool, but COME ON! it's only 1 game !!!
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Posted Jul 12, 2007 5:25 pm PT
Bleh ... I have only one impression of this whole charade: it's like watching survivor, only without the ability to vote people off.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 6:53 pm PT
Yeah, like the first 20 minutes all he was doing was talking about how they wouldn't be satisfied in tell they took over the world. Getting new gamers is a BAD thing. As most of them will act like n00bs for a long time.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 7:11 pm PT
Relys wrote:
Yeah, like the first 20 minutes all he was doing was talking about how they wouldn't be satisfied in tell they took over the world. Getting new gamers is a BAD thing. As most of them will act like n00bs for a long time.


Well I don't agree with that. I like Nintendo's direction in taking on new gamers. And I like that they are at least concerned about keeping hardcore gamers happy. But I needed to see more.

It looks like a lot more is being shown of value at E3 outside of their official conference, and that makes me very happy. But the biggest impressions they could given were during that official opening.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 7:26 pm PT
One thing espesically (probably spelled that wrong) this guy doesn't realize is that the e3 press conferences were for the press and it was only an added bonus for us. everyone fails to see this....
Posted Jul 12, 2007 7:41 pm PT
Nintendo is finished! That press conference proved that they have moved on to providing products for parents, Grand parents, and children. They have turned their backs on any hardcore nintendo fan, and when all the "Non-Gamers" who bought their system get tired of it, then Nintendo will turn back to us, see we aren't there for them anymore and have to fold up tent because of some ridiculous fad and hype that they have completely bought into.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 7:58 pm PT
ilootin wrote:
One thing espesically (probably spelled that wrong) this guy doesn't realize is that the e3 press conferences were for the press and it was only an added bonus for us. everyone fails to see this....


"This guy" doesn't fail to see that E3 has always been for the press first, and for the gaming public second. It is a trade show after all. And the press is supposed to report to us, which Gamespot did by allowing us to view the feeds directly. Do you honestly think companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo don't expect us to do that?
Posted Jul 12, 2007 8:08 pm PT
What r u guys thinking? Microsoft had a great show. Chewbacca would have been better if they had like subtitles or something the queer who was interpretting was a duche. Nintendo just kinda did "their thing" being totally rebellious to everything Sony and Microsoft are doin. In my opinion Microsoft is winning me over with all the "Exclusive to 360" titles. Assassin's Creed anyone?
Posted Jul 12, 2007 8:23 pm PT
Its way to funny how people give pet names to gaming companies come on "Ninty" second why does everybody have to talk lightly about nintendo when the system was launched it was said that this system would appeal to the older community of gamers well whats the appeal to the wii honestly i;ve played plenty of zeldas and metroids smash is fun for a bit but i there has always been a void in the story department.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 8:26 pm PT
Ya i too felt that nintendo didnt live up to sony's "show". Those montages were soooo annoying. Really all you have to do to win E3 it seems is show good nonchoppy gameplay footage and make big announcements. The wii balance board should have been a bigger part of their presentation.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 8:42 pm PT
Sony certainly had the best performance at E3, but that's not to say that Nintendo or Microsoft didn't deliver either. Personally, I was impressed by the Zapper and Mario Kart Wii with Nintendo, while impressed with MS's Scene It and Halo 3 Trailer.
Each had something to show and something to prepare. But E3 isn't the huge nerdgasm it once was.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 8:45 pm PT
I agree. I'm a 360 man myself, but I was blown away by how well Sony presented and organized their parts of the show. Microsoft showed off some great games, but it wasn't much more than an extended xbox commerical. And you're right, Nintendo's presence did seem a bit on the weak side.
Posted Jul 12, 2007 9:54 pm PT
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