OK, now that E3 is over and people have calmed down (because of price?!), let's see what games from last year E3 are no fakes or which games still remain fake or cgi.

 First of all, the mother of all cgi vs real time battle: KILLZONE Nothing has been shown at this years E3, nor any news... currently Guerrillia claims that it was a cgi based on real time.... sure... and my name is Kazuya Mishima... sure 1:0 against Sony

Motorstorm, nice thrilling fantastic demonstration... the one from E3 05... now we have some real time vids and screen(no direct feed screens so far...???? suspicious) and without being biased or something... less detailes, blurry textures,... less detailes,... less polygones,... oh and have i forgot... less detailes and blurry textures... OK it's a beta version but... hey, they already had enough detailed sharp material for that cgi video, so where is it for the real time presentation then...???? 2:0 against Sony

Heavenly Sword: It looks a bit better, more characters, sharper, more details, and that king, wow great detailed face... playable cgi movie??? no, it's real time, great real time!! 2:1 Sony getting closer

Tekken 6 ... oh my god ,.. OK it was obvious that this E3 05 video was cgi, but still some reporters thought that it might have been... ...come on, this one is out of the chart, as it was cgi from the beginning.. and the real time is just blurgggh

FFVII techdemo/white engine : it was real time at E3 05 and SE has shown some short real time scenes from this new game engine in FFXIII as well... it's OK, no prob here, game's looking good, this new white engine works in real time. 2:2

MGS4: It was never a NON real time... no need to discuss the best looking PS3 game but anyway it even doesn't belong to E3 05

Resistance: Fall of man: That E3 05 trailer was pre rendered, no doubt, but it was based on real time and now E3 06 has demonstrated it in real time, it even looks better, better Alien models, more detailed, sharp and smooth, nice job.Those blokes from motorstorm can learn something from them!! Sony gets the lead 3:2

Stranglehold...:E3 05 demo... ...sure... that was real time NO way... this game marks one of the worst graphics for PS3 so far. 3:3

Liar: difficult, at GDC people claim that it was real time and according to the normal map quality and jaggies it seems to be real time but were is it then... draw

Gundam: it was proven that the trailer at E3 05 is able to run on early dev kit in real time... at 5 to 10 fps earlier, but at E3 06 the game has lost some of it's sharpness and overall high quality detailed ambient, but those are the same poly models!!!! what else can you expect from bandai

Fatal Inertia: was it a E3 05...??? don't know... anyway... it might have been pre rendered once, but based on real time, always, having the same quality(almost) in ingame!!! no prob here 4:3 for Sony

F1 game: I know F1 mods for already two year old racing games which have sharper textures, and higher poly models If you don't believe, just ask 4:4

Gran Tourismo HD/Vision/ 5??: that's a PS2 game, no comment on this one Warhawk: very important, very promising game, just those hundreds of planes are still missing but everything else has been even improved!!! 5:4

AC4(those mechs): it was always real time, not sure if it was present at this years E3 but yes it was always real(and not that good looking)

Unreal Tournament 2007: There is MGS4 and there is UT07, which one looks better?? Now, even civilians may play it in real time!! 6:4

Several E3 06 no shows: Ni HO: definitely cgi, was never real at all; Dynasty Warriors: it was real time but now we will have to wait for TGS; Killing Day: it looked like real time at E3 05 but now it has been canceled anyway; Fight Night: it was real time... but it's now gone... as well as RE5(i doubt that this was real time... but MGS4 looks the same?!) DMC4: there is currently NO media at all, no vids, no screens, the cgi movie was just a... cgi movie, a promo vid I think those were most or all of the games presented at E3 05 press conference.

Please say if something is missing.

Currently it's a 6:4. 6 games have achieved it's developers aim, even surpassed it, but their aims weren't so high and ambitious like Killzone for example which belongs to those 4 games which were definitely fake at E3 05. On the other side, we have some great new games, real time of course which rock: fro this years E3

WarDevil: enigma/ Heavy Rain/ Unnamed Naughty Dog game/ Assassin's Creed and some EA sports games