Sunday, Oct 14, 2007
Why is it the most spoiled of people get their thread, but for those of us who want to remain the total opposite are not allowed a thread to themselves?
Three separate threads have been made on the Supernatural forum tonight with the intention of being able to discuss the storyline so far, these threads were intended to NOT contain any spoilers and as there isn't another thread about this for this season I thought this would be ok. How wrong was I??
There are three of us tv.com members who have been modded tonight because of this, and as I see it this is total discrimination. There are threads with blatant hostility in the title, such as "Hater's of the blond girl unite!" and threads with titles which are actually spoilers like "POLL - Dean not being Bens father good or bad?". I am at a total loss to see how these threads have survived when one of them gives away a large part of a story, and the other is encouraging hatred to an individual!
This is the TOS I received:
You have been found to have violated the TV.com terms of service.
Reason for moderation: If you want to discuss something on the show, create a thread about that topic and discuss, thanks
Action Taken: Delete Msg - No points were lost for this moderation.
I wouldn't mind, but I did exactly what the TOS said and still got a violation for it! We wanted to discuss the story so far, so I created a thread about it, and I got modded. What a bunch of hypocrites, they take threads down for containing spoilers saying they should all be placed in the official Spoilers and Speculation thread, yet at the same time they allow a thread dedicated to pure spoilers!
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Posted Oct 14, 2007 6:59 pm PT
I fully concur having been modded for a thread I made that contained the warning 'This counts as a spoiler' - in response I was told that ALL spoilers had to be made in the official spoiler thread - what a joke!!!!
besides the Evil thread there are other threads that as you say have spoilers in the titles themselves!
I'm sorry but I regard it as pure discrimination. To allow a thread called the Evil Thread and mod one called the Good Thread is just purely stupid surely!!
Mind you at the same time the amount i get ignored I might as well post what i like in any old thread! there are some threads on here that are utterly dominated by a small number of people who seem to do whatever the hell they like whilst a large section of us who helped to make this entire forum more popular in the first place are now not even allowed one thread! The moderation is petty and arbitrary - the disgusting things that were posted on the pics thread were allowed to pass uncensored and to be fair even 'the Rules' were allowed as well.
It's ridiculous that prejudiced opinions such as slagging off innocent female actresses are fine but oh heaven forbid you should want a place to discuss something with a bit of a sense of humour and a lack of desire to **** about the very thing you are supposed to be fan of, oh no that just wouldn't do!
if I made a thread called 'Death to all female characters by the way I hate supernatural anyways' it would probably surive no hassle!
If i get in trouble for this i will know that freedom of speech has truly died!!!
besides the Evil thread there are other threads that as you say have spoilers in the titles themselves!
I'm sorry but I regard it as pure discrimination. To allow a thread called the Evil Thread and mod one called the Good Thread is just purely stupid surely!!
Mind you at the same time the amount i get ignored I might as well post what i like in any old thread! there are some threads on here that are utterly dominated by a small number of people who seem to do whatever the hell they like whilst a large section of us who helped to make this entire forum more popular in the first place are now not even allowed one thread! The moderation is petty and arbitrary - the disgusting things that were posted on the pics thread were allowed to pass uncensored and to be fair even 'the Rules' were allowed as well.
It's ridiculous that prejudiced opinions such as slagging off innocent female actresses are fine but oh heaven forbid you should want a place to discuss something with a bit of a sense of humour and a lack of desire to **** about the very thing you are supposed to be fan of, oh no that just wouldn't do!
if I made a thread called 'Death to all female characters by the way I hate supernatural anyways' it would probably surive no hassle!
If i get in trouble for this i will know that freedom of speech has truly died!!!
Posted Oct 14, 2007 7:06 pm PT
Hey Twin. Long time no hear. Good to see you again.
I agree with what your saying. It makes absolutely no sense, but I don't make the rules, so I don't know how to help you. But it really does suck. I got modded for something, but I can't remember what, and i didn't like it. That really sucks though.
Again nice to see you
I agree with what your saying. It makes absolutely no sense, but I don't make the rules, so I don't know how to help you. But it really does suck. I got modded for something, but I can't remember what, and i didn't like it. That really sucks though.
Again nice to see you
Posted Oct 14, 2007 10:48 pm PT
Hey Jom,
I don't think it's fair either. Have you thought of resurecting the "For those of us left behind" thread? That thread was always left alone by the mods and I think it was pretty cool and well received (Lyca was really awesome in keeping track of where everyone was in the season and making sure it stayed spoiler free). Hell, I'll even track it down and bump it to the front page so that it can be put to good use. I want all the unspoiled people to have all the theorizing and speculating and fun that the spoiled among us do.
I don't think it's fair either. Have you thought of resurecting the "For those of us left behind" thread? That thread was always left alone by the mods and I think it was pretty cool and well received (Lyca was really awesome in keeping track of where everyone was in the season and making sure it stayed spoiler free). Hell, I'll even track it down and bump it to the front page so that it can be put to good use. I want all the unspoiled people to have all the theorizing and speculating and fun that the spoiled among us do.
Posted Oct 15, 2007 3:11 am PT
I do think it's unfair that you got modded. You should have some place truly spoiler free... But if it makes you feel any better, I got suspened for 2 days, points lost etc, because of a dup thread on the iTunes free download... so it's not just you guys.
Posted Oct 15, 2007 3:23 am PT
I had my thread removed yesterday too,and I got the exact same non-sensical message as you. And we were actually talking about SN and I was making sure of it, but still... Anyone know how to report a whole thread? I think it would be an idea to be a bit more watchful and get things reported properly if they're really out of line. And I actually don't care if some people don't like me for it, as I think we need to clean up this forum now before it really does become a place that a lot of us don't enjoying hanging out in any more.
Posted Oct 15, 2007 6:01 am PT
That is total Bullsh1t!! You are right that is complete discrimination!! Everywhere you seem to turn to now your spoiled, so i cant understand why you got modded, you know what im not gonna stand for this, im PMimg Gislef over this!!
Posted Oct 15, 2007 6:14 am PT
Started something here Jom 
Looks like we've got a revolution on our hands.
I do think that now the new season has started people will find better things to talk about other than the boys looks and having their babies. I just hope we can all stay civil when we don't agree.
Looks like we've got a revolution on our hands.
I do think that now the new season has started people will find better things to talk about other than the boys looks and having their babies. I just hope we can all stay civil when we don't agree.
Posted Oct 15, 2007 6:44 am PT
Well that's the thing, before we DID all disagree and be civil and humourous about it at the same time. I'm all for more and more people joining that's great but some of the stuff posted has been detrimental to the forum and to the aim of increasing viewership of Supernatural 
But i think Ciel is right I think we should be able to contact Gislef and say look this thread has just generally fallen apart help us re-establish it, then it wouldn't even be a case of naming names, it would be up to the moderator to chastise individuals or we could just remind people of the original purpose of the thread i guess
But one thing I do feel strongly about is the permittance of threads that actually contain spoilers in the title! I think that should be disallowed because you can't help but be confronted by it - and it's not even for the sake of us Brits or the Aussies or whoever - what if I was in America but happened to miss the show and was going to watch it another day but wanted to quickly speculate on the board before doing so? I would have no chance cause I would immediately see spoilers - I vaguely remember there used to be a policy forbidding that. There's no need to delete the whole thread - they should just change the title.
But i think Ciel is right I think we should be able to contact Gislef and say look this thread has just generally fallen apart help us re-establish it, then it wouldn't even be a case of naming names, it would be up to the moderator to chastise individuals or we could just remind people of the original purpose of the thread i guess
But one thing I do feel strongly about is the permittance of threads that actually contain spoilers in the title! I think that should be disallowed because you can't help but be confronted by it - and it's not even for the sake of us Brits or the Aussies or whoever - what if I was in America but happened to miss the show and was going to watch it another day but wanted to quickly speculate on the board before doing so? I would have no chance cause I would immediately see spoilers - I vaguely remember there used to be a policy forbidding that. There's no need to delete the whole thread - they should just change the title.
Posted Oct 15, 2007 8:30 am PT
On a side note - Jom, love what you did with the blog title and *thank you* for sticking Dire Straits in my head on repeat *sigh* 
Posted Oct 15, 2007 8:32 am PT
tv has come up with new rules and regulations 
or should i say more rules and regulations!!! im so tired of crap like that popping up and then they wonder why peeps dun want to go into the forums anymore, gee tv i wonder why that is too 
im so sorry jom ya had to get somethin as dumb as that for a tos 
*hugs* just dun think bout it too much and ignore em!!! 
thats what i do
or should i say more rules and regulations!!! im so tired of crap like that popping up and then they wonder why peeps dun want to go into the forums anymore, gee tv i wonder why that is too im so sorry jom ya had to get somethin as dumb as that for a tos *hugs* just dun think bout it too much and ignore em!!! thats what i do
Posted Oct 15, 2007 10:14 am PT
I agree with everyone. This really isn't fair. Because once someone has been modded, there is no way for s/he to fight a TOS violation when s/he simply didn't do anything wrong. The rules should allow for people who get modded to have "their chance in court," or so people say. Only there can the evidence be reviewed and the modded member tells his/her side of the story. The person who modded should have the decency to explain a little more about his/her reason.
Posted Oct 15, 2007 7:23 pm PT
Thanks guys, I knew I wasn't the only one who's sick of these unfair rules, and on a side note - I logged on today and have received a further TWO TOS violations not even 12 hours after the first! I have no idea what the hell I've done to get those, but there you go, it seems after my blog the powers that be seem to have it in for me - and that's EXACTLY what I said was going to happen to Snow and Lyca after the first one.
Posted Oct 16, 2007 8:51 am PT
man, what have i missed while im gone for days??!! btw, the good thread is out, the roadhouse is out, are we keeping lyca's thread? any respond from gislef? what's next? i love to have an all speculation thread!! i love it!!
Posted Oct 16, 2007 8:50 pm PT
Stay around for 3 months... nothing happens... leave for 10 days and a revolution is ongoing 
WTF ??!!! Good Thread ?? Roadhouse (again - don't the newbies learn from the elders mistakes ) ?? Lyca's Thread ??? pfff... can't you do that when I'm around ?? Anyway, Jom and all Yous, are right and in your right. There should be place for everyone and there sure is... it's just hard sometimes to make the PTB understand it. Most of the time they just look at the title of a thread and the first post, if that one is not on their "I like it" list then it's out... happened to me aswell a while ago
I hope you find a way to make your thread a go thread and keep having fun around here and I sure hope it can become a place where we all can get back on disagreeing civilly
About the "scrogneugneu" threads that pop up all the time and are so degrading (to the show, the actors, even to us serious fans) I did report a couple of them and had the pleasure to see them disappear rapidly after that... so count on me to keep that part of my fight up !!!
Although I'm totally spoiled and slighty... no let's not go there... I sure want to be part of a fandom and a board I can be proud of and I admit that has not been the case all the time lately... but running away from it is definitly not the way to make things better !!
Hope to see you guys/gals around more.
WTF ??!!! Good Thread ?? Roadhouse (again - don't the newbies learn from the elders mistakes ) ?? Lyca's Thread ??? pfff... can't you do that when I'm around ?? Anyway, Jom and all Yous, are right and in your right. There should be place for everyone and there sure is... it's just hard sometimes to make the PTB understand it. Most of the time they just look at the title of a thread and the first post, if that one is not on their "I like it" list then it's out... happened to me aswell a while ago I hope you find a way to make your thread a go thread and keep having fun around here and I sure hope it can become a place where we all can get back on disagreeing civilly
About the "scrogneugneu" threads that pop up all the time and are so degrading (to the show, the actors, even to us serious fans) I did report a couple of them and had the pleasure to see them disappear rapidly after that... so count on me to keep that part of my fight up !!!
Although I'm totally spoiled and slighty... no let's not go there... I sure want to be part of a fandom and a board I can be proud of and I admit that has not been the case all the time lately... but running away from it is definitly not the way to make things better !!
Hope to see you guys/gals around more.
Posted Oct 17, 2007 9:51 am PT
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