Friday, Nov 30, 2007
Alright, well right now, the only way I can process this whole Jeff Gersthman firing thing is that GameSpot has already gone to hell. Ever since Greg left, which is the reason I came to GameSpot in the first place, reviews have gone down the toilet, and now publishers actually are having an effect on what the game's score is. Besides this major problem, the fact that unions version two isn't coming anytime soon, if at all makes me very worried.
Convince me otherwise, I'd truly like you to, but I am seriously considering moving myself, and my union off-site, with only dedicated members remaining. Not only would this website likely be better than the union itself in the first place, but the fact is, it would be away from the one place that is simply getting ridiculous in the first place. Yes, I know I have a lot of friends here, and I do like you guys, but at some point you simply have to draw the line. I don't really have much of a reason to go to this site anymore, besides unions, and if my union is moved, basically I'm outta here.
The only question I have left is if I can make and maintain a website for free that can handle downloads, because I will need downloadable content to keep my site running, as that's a huge part of the Elder Scrolls world. If anyone can help me with this, I'll be entirely grateful. And I know, I will likely not be back here very often, but I'm not officially leaving yet, so don't worry, this isn't my last hurrah, just a warning of things to come.
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Posted Nov 30, 2007 8:31 pm PT
if you're a part of TESFU, I will send out a few telegrams every month talking about the new location, and what we're doing, until hopefully many of the members have joined.
Posted Nov 30, 2007 8:56 pm PT
Sup? I know u dont know me, but I was attracted here from Timma's blog cuz of ur title. I may be getting banned soon, and it would be wonderful if I could take my union along with me. Can u teach me how it all works? Cuz I have NO clue whatsoever. Sry if I kinda barged into ur blog, but I love my union and I dont want it to crash to hell cuz I got banned
Posted Nov 30, 2007 9:09 pm PT
umm, well, depends on what you want your union to do. I know freewebs.com has some easy, dependable sites for people to make, so if you're willing to do just that at first, then go for it. As for me, TESFU requires a bit more of a complicated site, so that's why I'm still only considering it.
Posted Nov 30, 2007 9:32 pm PT
Hendrix, I definately don't blame you. I've been very suspicious of GameSpot for a long time, and I've been very annoyed and aggrevated by them for the past several months, but Jeff being fired in this manner was the last straw. As soon as I find a trustworthy gaming site with a good community, I'm out of here.
Posted Nov 30, 2007 10:12 pm PT
Do you plan on joining an independent TESFU? 
Posted Nov 30, 2007 10:17 pm PT
Most definately.
Posted Nov 30, 2007 10:24 pm PT
Umm, what do u mean by "do"? I just want my union to be like it is now, just out of this damn place
Posted Nov 30, 2007 10:33 pm PT
I'm searching for a site to move on too. Only thing keeping me here is the community. I'd leave if I found a site with as great community.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 2:15 am PT
Well Mara, one union isn't really going to offer that, since it only caters to TES fans, but in some ways, I wish I could make a network of the off-site ex-unions. And, revan, what the heck? Read my post. If you want to get out of the place, you go to freewebs, if you want your union to be slightly better, it takes time to find a website.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 4:04 am PT
sry I haven't been on in awhile, but in light of this catastrophe I say we get off this sinking ship.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:21 am PT
I understand your need Hendrix, but I would rather stay here.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:22 am PT
well also I have heard that the site destructoid is credible and pretty good, but I've never been there myself.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:23 am PT
well I've been thinking, there's going to have to be a similar site with forums and everything that is going to replace this one... It may take awhile but we could try to get in our group groundfloor in something like that...
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:30 am PT
what are you talking about hrolf. And, the pro, does that mean you wouldn't join or participate in a new site at all?
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:38 am PT
I'm saying that maybe we could try and find a very similar site that will take gamespot's place.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:40 am PT
what, you mean like ign or something? There are plenty of gaming sites like GameSpot out there, but the unions idea is copyrighted so it doesn't make sense to leave unless you're moving a union to a different site.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:47 am PT
I mean until now gamespot was probably the biggest most powerful game journalism and forum site, now that it is dying there's an internet power vaccuum and something very similar with forums and stuff will take it's place. I mean all the former members on here that are leaving are going to go somewhere. there's going to be a new "gamespot" eventually and we need to find it and get on it.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:52 am PT
The only new gamespot is going to be an existing site, such as ign.com, where older members of the site go. GameSpot is not going to stop as a site altogether.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:58 am PT
well is there any way our group can be on ign then???
Posted Dec 1, 2007 7:54 am PT
no.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 9:02 am PT
ign is horrible for any group thing. I would consider you get a freewebs site, and then register for a free co.nr url.
And what is this that Jeff Gersthman got fired?
And what is this that Jeff Gersthman got fired?
Posted Dec 1, 2007 9:28 am PT
Hopefully something will happen and GS might recover, but until that day, I am also thinking of leaving. I am thinking of just not going to forums anymore, and putting more time into playing the games that we talk about. I would join the new site that you make though, since TESFU is the main reason why I still go to GS everyday.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 10:08 am PT
thanks julian, glad to have you aboard.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 10:23 am PT
Well, I doubt I can help you out here, but I wish the best of luck for your ES website.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 12:13 pm PT
Thanx for the help
Posted Dec 1, 2007 2:22 pm PT
good luck dude 
Posted Dec 1, 2007 3:12 pm PT
If indeed you move to a new site, then I will probably move to.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 6:29 pm PT
I think that I may join TESFU on a new site. I hardly even look at the rest of gamespot as it is, and with everything that's going on, it may just be for the best to leave gamespot entirely.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 8:40 pm PT
Moogle and I are planning it out, for anyone else who wishes to help out with the planning of an off-site TESFU, join me on xfire.com.
Posted Dec 1, 2007 8:42 pm PT
yeah if you make a site i will 100% move to it!
Posted Dec 2, 2007 6:56 am PT
OK! I just got great news! many former GS members are moving to a site called 1 up. The thing is that they have something called "clubs" which are the same things as unions. we could move there easily, not lose anything in transition and still have many people from the GS community.
Posted Dec 2, 2007 9:28 am PT
well it would suck to see you and a lot of other users leave the site but i honestly dont know why everybody thinks that there will be no other Jeff's to come up and take the reigns and stir up the pot after Jeff's removal. Just because they got rid of one rabble-rouser doesn't mean that others wont come behind him and take his place with a similar mind set. seriously, the world is gonna keep on turning and when one person leaves, others will be there to fill in the gaps
Posted Dec 2, 2007 10:19 am PT
I gotta say, GameSpot has changed, and not in a good way. It started as something little: the 'click and slite' ratings, only with full and half-full scores, wasn't all that great. And now, Jeff gives a 6.0 to a game that maybe doesn't even deserve such a high score, and Eidos is crapping, and so, Jeff is removed. It's insane! All about money people, and now, I'm considering leaving GameSpot... for now, until GS will act normal again.
I hope to see you all guys later on, when GamSpot has got rid of this sickness. Now, when I'm typing this, I'm sure to leave this site for now.
Goodbye, I'll probably get to IGN or something.
I hope to see you all guys later on, when GamSpot has got rid of this sickness. Now, when I'm typing this, I'm sure to leave this site for now.
Goodbye, I'll probably get to IGN or something.
Posted Dec 2, 2007 11:54 am PT
And hendrix29, you're a great leader. And to all of you members, have fun playing Oblivion! I'm going now, leaving all my reviews alone. I don't know, 1up.com is not my type, and ign has bad video's. Anyway, goodbye.
Posted Dec 2, 2007 11:59 am PT
chicknfeet, it's not just about Jeff, it's about the current situation with unions and how they aren't getting any better.
Posted Dec 2, 2007 12:24 pm PT
I support whatever you are going to do with the union 100%
Posted Dec 2, 2007 5:23 pm PT
CHICKNFEET!!!!! how dare you forsake the glourious martyr, Jeff Gerstmann! By firing him they showed their true colors! They care more about dirty money and corporate interests then they do being honest truthful and objectivity! They all are leaving because gamespot has now lost all credibility, showing that they will change their reviews for the right price! they have also insulted the community by taking away a valued editor in exchange for money and they have given us lies instead of reveiws horrible greedy lies!!!!!! What's really funny is that this money grubbing company will lose more money for so moronicly firing a perfectly honest and credible man!! Gamespot has now soiled all of it's employees and all of it's members and all of it's creation by giving into coruption and scandal by letting themselves be bribed into changing a review and firing Jeff!!! All the employees know it too, why do think so many left and quit like Tim Tracy!!!! OH but back to the point 1up is very good clubs are the exact things we need to get out of this capsizing boat, this pit of filth, this cage of torture and insanity, this oblivion realm!!!!!!!!
Posted Dec 2, 2007 5:30 pm PT
@chicknfeet: ......to the best of my knowledge, Jeff was not, I repeat, NOT, a rabble-rouser
Posted Dec 2, 2007 7:47 pm PT
@HrolfTheStrange: sorry guy but i just dont feel the same way about Jeff that you do. i just dont. and all of the passion that you are exuding just isnt convincing me to feel anything otherwise. unfortunately real life isnt always pretty...and crap like this happens. so what. you are dealing with people...and people cant do anything but be people...except for the mentally insane...they can be anything they want to be. it may suck but CNet is going to go on whether all of the upset users decide to leave or not. just like i said, when one person leaves someone else comes in to take their place
@LordRevan1: i meant rabble-rouser in a good way...like someone that doesnt just go with the flow because all their peers say they should. then again, if he wasn't a rabble-rouser then maybe he should have been let go since we do need more free thinkers in this world to stir up some commotion sometimes
@Hendrix29: you realize that CNet probably has an already stretched IT team working on maintaining this entire site and has to pick and choose their battles. unfortunately for all of the succeeding unions, the revamp has been viewed as a big project that would have to be delayed until they get a stronger crew or a better time to work on it. but if you are already set to move on then i wish you the best of luck
@LordRevan1: i meant rabble-rouser in a good way...like someone that doesnt just go with the flow because all their peers say they should. then again, if he wasn't a rabble-rouser then maybe he should have been let go since we do need more free thinkers in this world to stir up some commotion sometimes
@Hendrix29: you realize that CNet probably has an already stretched IT team working on maintaining this entire site and has to pick and choose their battles. unfortunately for all of the succeeding unions, the revamp has been viewed as a big project that would have to be delayed until they get a stronger crew or a better time to work on it. but if you are already set to move on then i wish you the best of luck
Posted Dec 3, 2007 2:17 pm PT
thanks chicknfeet. I felt it was logical to move on anyway. Even with GameSpot Endorsement, that's merely a title, and I've learned to figure that out.
Posted Dec 3, 2007 2:47 pm PT
@chicknfeet: Ohh, I see. Yeah, that was one of his many good qualities
Posted Dec 4, 2007 8:01 pm PT
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