Tuesday, Sep 22, 2009
So, my old man is a tech junkie, and though he only plays video games casually (what with being a full-time dad to my little sister, loving husband, amateur cook, and full-time artist) he upgrades his rigs (he has many, many, many) probably every month or too. The Jr. version of himself, me, get's the leftovers, which is beyond awesome. Anyways he bought an old (old?) 9800 GTX to double up with another one he had in one of his computers, and with it came a pair of 3D glasses, which the box claims to have a value of $60. Now this isn't the new NVIDIA crazy 3D explosion exelsior costing you $200 (and requiring you to buy a 120 hz monitor, specifally 22" in size, wierd, for another $400), but a taste of the ambrosia that NVIDIA is endeavoring to develop in its pursuit of absurdly fast development of goods you can't afford.
I'm wondering, how good could this be? Obviously not worth the money until a large amount of games are developed or augmented to pleasure you in the third dimension, but even then, what really does 3D do? I've seen my share of 3D movies and I have to say, not so impressed. They're more like cutouts, which may make the already three-dimensionally rendered graphi in your favorite game look even more flat. Plus, unless your riding with the giants and have one of those REAL 3D holy grails, you're stuck with that flat red/blue, red/green, green/blue color palette, robbing you of, if I may opine, half of your visual experience. Mind you the off-the-hook NVIDIA 3D experience (NVIDIA 3D VISION) does NOT alter the color, the glasses are clear, but still. Is it worth:
a) The 3D Kit
b) Compatible 120 HZ Display
c) Compatible NVIDIA graphics card
d) VISTA or WINDOWS 7 ONLY (if you don't have them already)
to have everything look like a pop-out book?
I can think of instances where this would be awesome, and some where it would not. Among one of the many samples I supped upon I noticed that Empire: Total War, looks absolutely incredible (even robbed of it's color). The ordered ranks of soldiers in formation are perfect for this exercise in the motion pop-out book medium, and I would assume, experienced in other RTS's of similar ilk, would also be sublime. But take any first person shooter, theoretically the ideal platform for 3D, where the border of the screen is the border of your experience. The screen is your avatar, your eyes. Now if I saw bullets wizzing past me, or through me, I would get very, very confused. I would imagine it would greatly lower your immersion to see an enemy skulk out of your screen, then disappear, instead of just exitting your periphery as happens with our current, archaic technology.
But, this is coming from a layman, an uninitiate, so don't even listen. Instead I'll turn my supple ears to you, and you guys can tell me what you think about this "next step" in the story of our favorite hobby.
Comments
Posted Sep 22, 2009 7:12 pm PT
I know ioQuake (the opne-source hacked version of Quake III) had 3D fun in it. Other than that, I can't say I've ever known any 3D games.
I think it sounds dumb, but it's something to play with.
I think it sounds dumb, but it's something to play with.
Posted Sep 22, 2009 7:22 pm PT
Easy answer. No, and probably wont be for a long time. I would however have a high graphics card :p and windows 7
Posted Sep 22, 2009 7:44 pm PT
I dunno if 3d like is anything like the 3d using motion controls, but the 3d using motion controls is awesome IMO! Of course given that few (none for the motion control 3d that I'm aware of) utilise it, I'm not really to interested in actually trying it out!
Posted Sep 22, 2009 8:20 pm PT
I think it's got potential, but unless they can rid 3D of what you describe as the "cutout effect," 3D is really not going to bring any more realism or immersion to games. I have flat-out ignored 3D in any games I've had where it was available (i.e., Sly 3 for PlayStation 2, which came with those oft-loathed blue and red specs) because it made the experience a headache rather than making it more enjoyable. The technology has a LONG way to go before it's going to get my attention.
Posted Sep 22, 2009 8:23 pm PT
@Transilvanien : when it rains it pours.
@Aberinkulas : My exact sentiments.
@samissleman17 : Myself as well. That being said, still not worth the investment for the rest of the crap, even if there were games for it. Not yet.
@Foolz3h : It took me a while to get into even basic motion controls like stuff for the Wii or DS. And now I'm hooked! So we'll see...
@Mr_Upstage : Agreed. Once it stops giving me headaches or making my eyes bug out and/or hurt, I'll consider a sacrifice to the God of 3D...
@Aberinkulas : My exact sentiments.
@samissleman17 : Myself as well. That being said, still not worth the investment for the rest of the crap, even if there were games for it. Not yet.
@Foolz3h : It took me a while to get into even basic motion controls like stuff for the Wii or DS. And now I'm hooked! So we'll see...
@Mr_Upstage : Agreed. Once it stops giving me headaches or making my eyes bug out and/or hurt, I'll consider a sacrifice to the God of 3D...
Posted Sep 22, 2009 8:43 pm PT
My problem with shooters is that I don't really have a full range of view. My peripheral vision is cut off by the borders of the screen and I have to turn the character to see what's around me rather then move my eyes around to get an idea of where things are in my range of view. I would be ecstatic to have a true 3D experience with a FPS, to see bullets whizzing past me and through me would be no more confusing then it was for a soldier in WW2 or even in today's war, in fact that would be the greatest gaming experience of all time. I think it will be a little while before the 3D evolution truly takes place but I have no doubt that it will move in that direction. Immersion is the name of the game with video games, we play them to escape our everyday lives and become super-human, to become the hero we watch in movies. It only makes sense for games to evolve into a true 3D platform. Like a holo-deck on Star Trek but it all comes from a device you put on your head. I can totally see that.
Posted Sep 22, 2009 10:06 pm PT
To the human body whatever you see isn't 3D once your periphial vision is cut off. You would have to wear glasses that span to the sides of your eyes. Imagine Cyclops from X-Men. They'd probably have to be screens too. If they can pull this off then it'll be a blast.
Posted Sep 22, 2009 10:18 pm PT
Did you ever see UP in 3-d in theaters? Great 3-d movie, and the picture didn't use that distorting red and blue double layer for those color dimming glasses. It looked great, and didn't use the 3-d for cheap jokes/thrills. It didn't really add to the movie, though.
I see games skipping 3d and delivering you straight into a full virtual world. 10 years.
I see games skipping 3d and delivering you straight into a full virtual world. 10 years.
Posted Sep 22, 2009 10:41 pm PT
@floristandbicyc
I don't mean the controls, i mean using the wii's infra-red interface to track where your head is so that as you move around the things on the screen do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
That is pretty cool!
That might be what nromal 3D is like, though, I've not seen it.
I don't mean the controls, i mean using the wii's infra-red interface to track where your head is so that as you move around the things on the screen do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
That is pretty cool!
That might be what nromal 3D is like, though, I've not seen it.
Posted Sep 22, 2009 11:19 pm PT
If implemented well 3D in games could actually be very cool. For me, it would be better to have it implemented in more and more games rather than movies. Imagine playing a racing simulator in 3D. The ultimate driver's experience ? I guess so.
At present though, 3D is too expensive an option to consider. (Even a gaming machine not required to support 3D is not that cheap). My guess is that it will be quite a while before 3D becomes commonplace but I'm also guessing that it will. It's possibly similar to the transition from 2D graphics to 3D graphics in the mid 90s - it took some time, but can you imagine playing a side-scrolling action adventure game on the PC today ?
At present though, 3D is too expensive an option to consider. (Even a gaming machine not required to support 3D is not that cheap). My guess is that it will be quite a while before 3D becomes commonplace but I'm also guessing that it will. It's possibly similar to the transition from 2D graphics to 3D graphics in the mid 90s - it took some time, but can you imagine playing a side-scrolling action adventure game on the PC today ?
Posted Sep 23, 2009 12:58 am PT
So your dad plays a little video-games. Which is his favourite game?
I tried once the 3-d glasses, but I'm already wearing glasses, so it's like wearing two pairs the one on top of the other. Plus I don't want to look like a UFO
I tried once the 3-d glasses, but I'm already wearing glasses, so it's like wearing two pairs the one on top of the other. Plus I don't want to look like a UFO
Posted Sep 23, 2009 1:42 am PT
@GreenNinjaN : to do this properly we need either wraparound headsets or, if we are using glasses, humongous widescreens that complete our periphery, so bullets actually fly past us, instead of slightly to the side only to be cut off by our screens. We'll see! Those insane bendible LEDs are begging to be bought by ME (well my dad first )!
@Dawg9000 : hear hear!
@itsTolkien_time : No, it's hammer time. I did see some footage of a crazy ball shaped game room in development. Can't remember where...
@Foolz3h : Oh I know you weren't talking about Wii Remotes I was just changing to topic.
@KrazzyDJ : I frequently imagine playing a side-scrolling action adventure on the PC today. I do know what your saying though. We'll wait and see. Always safe to play the skeptic lol.
@Rheinmetal : He likes to play Crysis. He bought Bioshock and Far Cry 2 recently too. He just likes things to benchmark with.
)!@Dawg9000 : hear hear!
@itsTolkien_time : No, it's hammer time. I did see some footage of a crazy ball shaped game room in development. Can't remember where...
@Foolz3h : Oh I know you weren't talking about Wii Remotes I was just changing to topic.
@KrazzyDJ : I frequently imagine playing a side-scrolling action adventure on the PC today
. I do know what your saying though. We'll wait and see. Always safe to play the skeptic lol.@Rheinmetal : He likes to play Crysis. He bought Bioshock and Far Cry 2 recently too. He just likes things to benchmark with.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 1:52 am PT
Oh I see, he likes FPSs then. I'm playing BioShock too now and I love it. Your dad has a good instinct in games.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 2:01 am PT
i had something that beats 3d easy, i was playing halflife 2 one time on the old original xbox with the fat chunky controller, somehow id been playing the game so long, and was so immersed in it, that i felt the gun move, felt the recoil from the shot, and the edges of the tv had blurred all the way around to match my peripheral vision, if anyone could make that im sure w/e the pricetag was it would be worth it, but were decades from anything like that and until then 3d will have to do - it will at least be interesting to see what specific 3d only games will be like -
Posted Sep 23, 2009 3:08 am PT
giving up on PC gaming gonna stick to consoles costs a lot less, no buying hardware every 1,5 or 2 years...
Posted Sep 23, 2009 3:51 am PT
3D in the absence of true holographic projection = complete bull****skies. Pretty, but useless and as you say, probably distracting as hell.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 4:31 am PT
i think 3D can be a nice little add on, but it might depend on what game yur playin if u wana use it at all
Posted Sep 23, 2009 5:31 am PT
It's like motion controls, a cute gimick that everyone says adds to the experience but in reality not so much
Posted Sep 23, 2009 7:51 am PT
i think for things to look good in 3d they have to be made especially to be viewed only in 3d from the ground up so that all the levels blend seamlessly together to eliminate the cutout feeling, and pretty much everything so far hasn't been, but if you snoop around the internet there are some really impressive 3d images to see... as for gaming tho, i feel that this 3d stuff is pretty much just another gimmick thats kinda cool for a while but really doesn't add anything to the experience
Posted Sep 23, 2009 8:05 am PT
@floristandbicyc : I think what I was going for was more of an enhanced version of Virtual Reality games. I played a virtual reality Mechwarrior game at a Dave&Busters once and it still ranks as one of my most awesome gaming memories because of the level of immersion that was presented. You wore like a modified motorcycle helmet and sat in you own little cube that had a joystick on each arm-rest. It was freaking amazing. The other great thing was that there were several other cubicles and all the players were inside the same gaming session exactly like a LAN. When you moved your head around you could see every angle as if you were really inside a Mech. The joysticks controlled your pitch and movement. It was one of if not the most fun I'v ever had playing a video game. If they could take that kind of a thing and convert it for home use then that would be what I'm getting at "3D" games as they are right now with glasses and crap sucks but make it more like virtual reality and then we're talking.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 10:18 am PT
@tttttank : Someone should develop a religious mantra to recreate experiences like the one you've described. It's happened to me a couple times before. Game Yoga. Lol.
@Rheinmetal : he does like a good FPS, I remember we used to play Marathon deathmatch when I was but a wee bairn, on the old Macs. Pow pow! @deadliest88 : I hear you. Bought a PS3 last year and am considering an X360 (a gift when I quit smoking). One purchase to rule them all.
@Frame_Dragger : I would rather see a better touch simulating controller before 3D. I saw this one mouse that vibrates in such a way as to emulate texture... but there was no games to work with it, only a sample program. Get that developed, then go straight for the holographic experience... my brain capsizes just thinking about it.
@jakass13 : yeah. World of Warcraft is already compatible with this business, as is Left 4 Dead, I'm sure it would be fun for a bit, as a gimmick, or as you say, an add on.
@Rheinmetal : he does like a good FPS, I remember we used to play Marathon deathmatch when I was but a wee bairn, on the old Macs. Pow pow! @deadliest88 : I hear you. Bought a PS3 last year and am considering an X360 (a gift when I quit smoking
). One purchase to rule them all.@Frame_Dragger : I would rather see a better touch simulating controller before 3D. I saw this one mouse that vibrates in such a way as to emulate texture... but there was no games to work with it, only a sample program. Get that developed, then go straight for the holographic experience... my brain capsizes just thinking about it.
@jakass13 : yeah. World of Warcraft is already compatible with this business, as is Left 4 Dead, I'm sure it would be fun for a bit, as a gimmick, or as you say, an add on.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 11:32 am PT
@mikeyvp87 : If you are referring to steering with the SIXAXIS and things like that, I couldn't agree more. I was born with a mouse/keyboard in my hands, so I like to keep it simple.
@alexLmx6 : Yeah, they haven't even really perfected it in movies yet, God knows how they'll do it in games... not for a while probably.
@GreenNinjaN : Now that sounds really cool. If you had some 3D inside the headset that would be mind blowing. Imagine if there was some "bullet time", John Woo style, and you could turn your head to watch bullets fly past you. SWEET.
@alexLmx6 : Yeah, they haven't even really perfected it in movies yet, God knows how they'll do it in games... not for a while probably.
@GreenNinjaN : Now that sounds really cool. If you had some 3D inside the headset that would be mind blowing. Imagine if there was some "bullet time", John Woo style, and you could turn your head to watch bullets fly past you. SWEET.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 11:32 am PT
3D is so cool!!! if your in the 5th grade anyway. I think 3D becomes less cooler as you age, but i would still like to try it out though see how it is. And I agree about the rts thing, since that is about all I play I might give it a shot when i'm rich lol. Oh and my mom plays video games to...its the most annoying thing ever! she's always asking me to help her out with something every 2 seconds i wanna shoot myself every time she turns on the ps2. Good thing is though she wants to get a PS3, so that's a perk, not having to buy your own consoles.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 12:18 pm PT
I think I will only by into the 3D fad when it is like the HoloDeck on Star Trek. Until then, I just don't get it. I have yet to see a movie in the theater's in 3D because I would just so much rather watch it without having to put on glasses. I don't think it would even be worth an extra $5 for the 3D glasses.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 1:20 pm PT
yeah im getting tired of all these new movies coming out in 3d.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 1:54 pm PT
The next step is defined as the step consumers are willing to pay for. If there is demand, then it is worth pursuing. At the moment it seems there is not much demand for this, I mean the shift to HD is not even complete yet and already they're ready for full 3D monitor kits that will costs you hundreds? HD was (and still is) overshooting the needs of the average consumer, so I imagine that this 3D thing is decades away from being successfully commercialized.
It could be cool though, some time down the road. I mean, why not?
It could be cool though, some time down the road. I mean, why not?
Posted Sep 23, 2009 5:03 pm PT
I agree mostly, especially about the red/blue color options for the home. Polarized lenses and nVidia's high quality specs can make the 3D experience pretty cool, but I think with video games the pull wouldn't be making things pop "out", but "in". Instead of making bullets and enemies seem like they're coming out of the screen, you'd want the monitor's panel to be the "0" point and have the world expand inward, away from you, to acheive the 3D effect.
There are a few examples in movies. Coraline comes to mind. During the beginning when the camera follows her as she leaves her house to go to the garden, nothing is popping out of the screen, but everything in the frame is in 3D. That would be great for a FPS. Imagine depth of field post processing in a (seemingly) real 3D environment. I for one would love to see it. For $800? No. But things are always expensive when they first come out.
There are a few examples in movies. Coraline comes to mind. During the beginning when the camera follows her as she leaves her house to go to the garden, nothing is popping out of the screen, but everything in the frame is in 3D. That would be great for a FPS. Imagine depth of field post processing in a (seemingly) real 3D environment. I for one would love to see it. For $800? No. But things are always expensive when they first come out.
Posted Sep 23, 2009 8:57 pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw&feature=player_embedded This is the type of 3D I want to see. Would definatley up the immersion a lot. Though I agree about the lame pop-up book 3D not being worth it.
(EDIT:sorry only just realised Foolzeh has posted the video below)
(EDIT:sorry only just realised Foolzeh has posted the video below)
Posted Sep 24, 2009 2:04 am PT
3d is a fun technology to play with, but for true imersion into video games developers should be looking into the virtual reality realm. it will probably be a few years before we fell like were in actual battle playing an fps, but there is no way 3d glasses is going to revolutionize gaming. The technology is out there and we can already see movie viewing glasses on the market. Incorparate those with motion controls and advanced graphics and youre in the game. Thats were I see games going in the not so distant future.
Posted Sep 24, 2009 6:28 am PT
At the University I used to go to they have a 3D room where they conduct research called the CAVE. It is also used for phobia treatment (heights and public speaking) as well as by the students to play games sometimes. As it is a room which has the graphics projected on the walls it isn't quite the same as what you describe, but its my only experience of 3D in games. It makes you quite dizzy, and takes a lot of getting used to, particualrly character control. I think its great, and would love to have more 3D games, particularly for a more integrated Virtual Environment, but I think it has a long way to go. Once they tackle the lag, the motion sickness may get better. As you say though, 3D games on a fixed screen may be disorientating as the border of the screen is such a contrast from the 3D image.
Posted Sep 24, 2009 7:59 am PT
I saw Beuwulf in 3D and was blown away. It really made the movie worth watching, without which I don't think I would have stayed for the whole thing. True it does create the "cut out" effect like one of those old View Finders but I find the addition of depth of field amazing. One of my cousins, who is a professional web designer is under the impression that companies don't believe they can improve the picture quality of HD, so they are now focusing on the many 3D technologies to be the next big thing. So whether we like it or not, we're likely to be inundated with it in the coming years. I just hope Microsoft had it in mind when developing Natal, because personally I'm a fan.
Posted Sep 24, 2009 8:16 am PT
I agree, I've never been very impressed with 3D movies or games either. It definitely isn't worth it to me to buy all the extra stuff just for 3D.
Posted Sep 24, 2009 2:14 pm PT
@Deantry : I imagine fighting over who gets to play could get tedious . I live with my girlfriend, and when she wants to play the Wii and I want to play the PS3 (they are both plugged into the same TV) it can get a wee confrontational.
@ubergusterfan : and if you already have glasses, let me tell you, it is a whole lot of no fun. Who wants to be six eyed, really?!
@chedarcheese190 : Some of it is cool, but typically when a new movie comes out with 3D at the end of the title, there is plenty of eye rolling in my household.
@evrdayblues : Well, when it's affordable, again, why not? With the true experience it doesn't alter color fidelity. You have the option to pull the glasses off at any time. BUT as it costs half my months rent...well...
@SlowMotionKarma : that's true, I never thought of it that way.
. I live with my girlfriend, and when she wants to play the Wii and I want to play the PS3 (they are both plugged into the same TV) it can get a wee confrontational.@ubergusterfan : and if you already have glasses, let me tell you, it is a whole lot of no fun. Who wants to be six eyed, really?!
@chedarcheese190 : Some of it is cool, but typically when a new movie comes out with 3D at the end of the title, there is plenty of eye rolling in my household.
@evrdayblues : Well, when it's affordable, again, why not? With the true experience it doesn't alter color fidelity. You have the option to pull the glasses off at any time. BUT as it costs half my months rent...well...
@SlowMotionKarma : that's true, I never thought of it that way.
Posted Sep 24, 2009 3:55 pm PT
@Britzy999 and @Foolz3h: That's so cool! I liked his other videos too, especially the foldable displays and the finger sensor thingers. Hooray for super nerds!
@mluiz16 : Well, baby steps I guess!
@Joker_Wylde : That sounds like an awesome project. Yeah, probably after we have wraparound LEDs or headsets or something things will just be confusing. @ZephyrKama : I've found that 3D considerably "cleans up" (by distorting) crappy visuals, crappy visuals being enforced because of the monstrous hardware requirements on PCs to deliver the 3D experience. By making things pop out, you ignore gross textures, chunk polygons, etc. I imagine when applied to full HD (and corresponding high graphical settings), if you're computer can handle the resolution, 3D could look pretty amazing. @hank_101 : Maybe in a couple of years when things are cheaper it will be worth it.
@mluiz16 : Well, baby steps I guess!
@Joker_Wylde : That sounds like an awesome project. Yeah, probably after we have wraparound LEDs or headsets or something things will just be confusing. @ZephyrKama : I've found that 3D considerably "cleans up" (by distorting) crappy visuals, crappy visuals being enforced because of the monstrous hardware requirements on PCs to deliver the 3D experience. By making things pop out, you ignore gross textures, chunk polygons, etc. I imagine when applied to full HD (and corresponding high graphical settings), if you're computer can handle the resolution, 3D could look pretty amazing. @hank_101 : Maybe in a couple of years when things are cheaper it will be worth it.
Posted Sep 24, 2009 3:56 pm PT
@floristandbicyc: hahaha, yea tell me about it. It's always gonna be like that when you have 1 tv and 2 or more people who play, I also have a twin brother so between the 3 of us, well you already know lol. But hey you can only be grateful right, many wish they had what we have. Someone to fight over who gets to use the tv that is.
Posted Sep 25, 2009 12:52 am PT
I tested this out at a local convention. It works great for shooters, but the screen better be big enough to cover your full vision. It's like you said, everything pops out until it gets to the edge of the screen. If you can't see the edge of the screen though, you never notice this. The only screens I have seen completely immersive are the big dome ones. There's one in BC canada, Portland OR, and LA I think. When you watch a movie in those, the dome covers your complete field of view. Seeing a 3D movie in there would be pretty convincing.
By the way, it's full color 3D. Not the boring black and white or red/blue. The cost is too much now, but it's possible it will become more standard in the future.
By the way, it's full color 3D. Not the boring black and white or red/blue. The cost is too much now, but it's possible it will become more standard in the future.
Posted Sep 25, 2009 10:55 am PT
@Deantry : Definitely. What's a hobby without someone you love to make jealous whenever your playing and they can't?
@James00715 : I've had a chance to try both full color (at a demo) and the free blue/red stuff. It's definitely cool, but I'm quite sold yet. In Bioshock there were lots of weird glitches, like water sprouting out a foot (in the game world) away from where the holes were, statues blending together (even at low depth levels), and you have to turn off the shadows setting (!!!) to make it work properly. Maybe games will start issuing out patches!
@James00715 : I've had a chance to try both full color (at a demo) and the free blue/red stuff. It's definitely cool, but I'm quite sold yet. In Bioshock there were lots of weird glitches, like water sprouting out a foot (in the game world) away from where the holes were, statues blending together (even at low depth levels), and you have to turn off the shadows setting (!!!) to make it work properly. Maybe games will start issuing out patches!
Posted Sep 25, 2009 11:35 am PT
3D will not affect how you play the game. The motion control did. You now see Sony and M$ scrambling to pick up the pieces of the motion control world.
Okay, but for mass production of Virtual 3D games (with 360 degree view [I hate saying 360 now, makes me think of the product rather than the number ;x]) will take a good 5 years, and then making it attractive and affordable, I say 6-7.
Okay, but for mass production of Virtual 3D games (with 360 degree view [I hate saying 360 now, makes me think of the product rather than the number ;x]) will take a good 5 years, and then making it attractive and affordable, I say 6-7.
Posted Sep 25, 2009 12:27 pm PT
whatever happened to that video headset with motion sensors? I remember reading that it was compatible with halo, but inconvenient in that you'd have to completely turn around to look behind you.
realistically, I don't think much will come from technology in gaming until they combine those sorts of headsets (streamlined and mainstream) with those physical sensation units (I remember reading a while ago about units that simulated being shot, etc; I don't remember if it was vibrating panel you wore or just little sticker things that stimulated nerves with electricity).
3d will only ever work best in real life.
realistically, I don't think much will come from technology in gaming until they combine those sorts of headsets (streamlined and mainstream) with those physical sensation units (I remember reading a while ago about units that simulated being shot, etc; I don't remember if it was vibrating panel you wore or just little sticker things that stimulated nerves with electricity).
3d will only ever work best in real life.
Posted Sep 25, 2009 7:01 pm PT
3D gaming is the beginning of the end for many more peoples exercise. Next we will have a 3D World Of Warcraft, and we all know how addictive for some people that would be.
Posted Sep 25, 2009 7:51 pm PT
@NearlyPrescient : That would be pretty radical, though I already get shocked enough in a horror game by my controllers vibration. Could you imagine feeling a zombie pounce on your back with a sensor suit? Holy crap. I soiled myself just typing this.
@Urworstnhtmare : All you need is a food tube and a hole in your seat, and your WoWed for life.
@Urworstnhtmare : All you need is a food tube and a hole in your seat, and your WoWed for life.
Posted Sep 25, 2009 10:00 pm PT
@itsTolkien_time : I can't imagine the work required to make those games. It hurts to think about it. To make them feel natural you'd have to code in a lot into your avatar, just to compensate for idle arm/leg movements when your not aiming or shooting... would you have to play standing up? AHHH too much to think about!
Posted Sep 25, 2009 10:06 pm PT
So far, the only marketability I've seen for 3-D technology is a device to get parents to pay more for tickets to Disney movies.
Posted Sep 26, 2009 1:06 am PT
@floristandbicyc : so true. I'm not up to date on modern technology, but i think it will be 6 years before a virtual game is available to consumers.
Posted Sep 26, 2009 8:15 am PT
For most people, theorizing about the future of 3D gaming is a lot like people's opinions of the future back in the 50s; a pundit though a few may be, hindsight is going to be the real winner here. 3D gaming has tons of potential. That's it.
Posted Sep 26, 2009 5:45 pm PT
the problem with 3d is that your eyes cant really focus on anything because its in your face
Posted Sep 27, 2009 9:38 am PT
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Posted Sep 27, 2009 2:50 pm PT
@grigjd3 : Hah! Silly adults. @Racebannon_ : You are right. I did, however, put a note at the end of my blog stating that I don't really know what I'm talking about, just talking out of my proverbial a**. We'll see! @solidsnakedude1 : It's not quite that bad, atleast for the games I tested. Whats more confusing is aiming, or clicking on little objects, what with the crazy depth perception and all.
Posted Sep 27, 2009 2:51 pm PT
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