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Thursday, Oct 8, 2009

ela and daria rooting for "due south" made me think about some older shows i'm still very fond of ...

my show addiction has actually started with "lost" but there have been some shows before that i still admire. to be honest, looking back, i realize that some of them appear to be very awkward nowadays nowhere even close to the quality of today's shows and while some of them still are fun to watch, some others don't really do it much for me anymore ...

when i grew up i was totally addicted to stuff like

"bonanza"

bonanza


"mac gyver"

mac gyver

"the fall guy"

fall guy



"falcon crest"

falcon crest


and "the a-team"

a team


i'm not too sure i'd still watch all of them nowadays (well, i sometimes tune in on the a-team as my own personal guilty pleasure ...)


there are shows though, i've been rewatching during the last three years. they've all been broadcasted quite some time ago and they have almost no traffic in forums in here anymore ...


first of course is "due south" (1994 - 1998 ).

due south

due south

i'm so very excited, ela and daria are watching it right now. before "chuck" came along, this was my all-time favourite and maybe you remember that before the whole "save chuck" campaign started, i had its main character benton fraser as my avatar.

"due south" is the story of benton fraser (played by paul gross), a canadian mountie coming to chicago in search of the killer of his father. he teams up with a ray vecchio (played by david marciano), a pretty cynical cop who is rather irritated by fraser's methods, brought from the yukon to the big city but adapts more and more of fraser's kindness and points of view. fraser is a very polite and friendly guy who very much believes in the good in people even in the unlikeliest of places and his trust is met most of the time. in one of the first scenes for instance fraser lends money to a guy telling him, that his daughter is sick. vecchio is mocking him, telling him that he is never going to see his money again but fraser actually really gets it back.

"due south" is a show with a very eccentric and intelligent humour but it can be very sad at times as well, bringing up social issues in a very unjudgemental way and the the cast is really excellent down to the smallest role. seasons 1 and 2 were us-american/canadian productions, seasons 3 and 4 (treated as a whole different show in here) were purely canadian.

in seasons 3 and 4 ray vecchio is going undercover and is replaced by ray kowalski (played by callum keith rennie) who pretends to be vecchio in the beginning but has a very different approach to fraser first, finally turning into friendship as well.


another show i've rewatched some time ago is

early edition (1996 - 2000)

early edition

"early edition" takes place in chicago as well (maybe you've got a hint by now why the windy city has been the place of my dreams for so many years and why i went there this spring ) but other than "due south" which seems to have been shot in toronto, it really seems to have been made there.

"early edition" is the story of gary hobson (kyle chandler) who get's tomorrow's newspaper delivered today. you never know where the newspaper comes from but it gives him the chance of preventing bad things from happening. gary is pretty overextended with his new "job", ruining his chance of a normal life and a normal relationship. he appears on the radar of the police since he's very often at the place were bad things are about to happen or happening, but he still keeps going. he is supported by marissa, a blind woman and his best friend chuck fishman, who is constantly tempted to take advantage of the newspaper.

i know the whole thing sounds rather heavy but there is some very great and cranky humour mixed in as well and it's great how the show makes it clear that there isn't anybody not deserving to be rescued and that makes it one of the most human shows i've ever seen.


lois & clark - the new adventures of superman (1994 - 1997)

lois & clark

you all know the story of "superman".

i love "lois & clark - the new adventures of superman" because unlike "smallville" it never gets violent and it doesn't take itself all seriously. "lois & clark"'s clark kent is a really and friendly guy never using his powers to do any harm. he never takes revenge, he never uses force for force's sake. there are some pretty funny moments as well and the whole show quite often reminds of a comic strip.



max headroom (1987 - 1997)

max headroom

"max headroom" takes place in a "blade runner"like future where the whole planet is controled by tv stations. it's the story of journalist edison carter (played by matt frewer). he's some kind of a pretty arrogant guy but he's also the best investigative reporter of channel 23. after he's discovered a scandal concerning his own channel, he is chased and finally has an accident. to find out what he knows, his memory is downloaded to a computer. out comes a computer generated guy (played by matt frewer as well) who calls himself max headroom (after the "max. headroom" barrier, edison carter hit his head at). he takes up a life of his own, appearing on screens in the most inappropriate moments, commenting a world he doesn't really understand with a heavy stuttering and a very dead pan humour and he makes edison carter's life pretty complicated because he is starting to spill out his memories to all kind of people ...

again "max headroom" has very eccentric humour, it brings up a lot of social issues and its cast is just brilliant (especially matt frewer playing edison carter and max headroom).


and now to a show that really is old ...

the man from u.n.c.l.e. (1964 - 1968 )

man from u.n.c.l.e.

to be honest, i'm not quite sure how seriously this show was taking itself, i doubt it did very much. i'd rather consider it some kind of parody on secret agent movies. it's another guilty pleasure for me and a lot of fun to watch.

"the man from u.n.c.l.e." is napoleon solo (robert vaughn), agent of the united network command for law and order, an international organisation fighting crime. he is teaming up with illya kuryakin (david mccallum), a russian agent (we're talking about a show here that was made in the darkest depths of cold war and that -- apart from having african agents as well -- must have been a mild sensation back then). their oponents are the agents of an organisation called "thrush", seeking power over the world. solo and kuryakin are no supermen, they get thrashed quite frequently, they tend to walk into traps all of the time, but it's even more of a pleasure to watch it because of that.

btw, i wasn't born yet when it was first shown ...


that's all for now. i've got to watch "eastwick" and "the forgotten" to be ready for the marathon of great thursday shows tomorrow.

please let us know, what shows that aren't broadcasted anymore you like, what you grew up with and what your personal guilty pleasures are.

Posted by emma5000, 2:14pm
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Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:05 pm PT
hey, daria! congratulations!
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:10 pm PT
I'm watching Due South right now Why do I always watch Due South while commenting on your blogs? If I don't comment on a show you can assume I haven't wathed it I have seen like 3 episodes of MacGyver... I think it's cheesy and weird. Do you have any other TV.com friends that are fans of Due South? I remember you having Fraser as an avatar, of course I had no idea who he was back then But I remember thinking it was from some kind of oldish comedy. But I love the show so much now. The storylines actually interest me, which most proceduraly show's storylines don't. The characters are well made. Even Dief is pure awesomeness. Is it weird to have a wolf dog as your third favorite character on a show? So far my favorite part of the show is the dynamic between Kowalsky and Fraser. I love it when they fight and sh*t. They are great and hilarious together
Charmed was the first show I truly loved. Shows that aren't broadcasted anymore I like are (in order of preference): Angel, Buffy, Firefly, Drive, Due South, Terminator, Two Guys and a Girl, Doogie Howser, Battlestar Galactica, Stark Raving Mad, Six Feet Under,Veronica Mars, The X-Files, The OC, (is Dr. Who finnished?), Twitch City, Will and Grace, Harper's Island, Freaks and Geeks, Jericho, Friends, Tru Calling, Charmed, Dead Like Me. There are more but I felt like I should stop at some point You may notice how a lot of these shows are still fairly new but I'm 17 so it's not like I've had the chance to ever watch old shows on TV
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:24 pm PT
Hi Bea I made it over! There's a lot of shows here I have never seen I was too young I think. So I'll just comment on the ones I remember. Of course I remember The A Team! That was a big show I used to really love it, I remember dancing around to the theme music when I was a kid. My favourite character was Mr T he was so funny.
I think I have already mentioned to you that I vaugely remember Due South, it aired when I was a kid, but to me it was just some boring adult show it didn't interest me at all. I have to say Callum Keith Rennie looks a lot better looking younger judging by that photo

I was a HUGE fan of Lois & Clark! I loved it so much! it would air Saturday mornings here along with kids TV. Yes I have to agree the great thing about it was that it did not take it's self seriously it was very funny at times.
I very very vaugely remember Max Headroom I think.... well just that weird head thing and the bright colours... mind you everything was like that in the 80's LOL.
I also remember some shows that were way before my time but they were repeated when I was a kid like: Land Of The Giants (a show about a group people on a space ship that crash landed on a parallel universe where everybody is giants) , Planet of the Apes, I Dream of Genie, Bewitched, The Addams Family (yeah the original black and white one I effing loved that), The Munsters, The Muppet Show, Stingray (and other Gerry Anderson classics), also all the classic cartoons from Hanna Barbera, Loony Tunes, Tex Avery, Disney ETC. Old cartoons were my faves Nice blog brings back memories!
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:33 pm PT
Oh yeah and I think it was me that forced you to change your avatar during the save Chuck campaign
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:35 pm PT
@Daria: No Dr Who is not finished it's airing again at the end of the year I think. Bea probably knows Really old shows are aired all the time here I guess they don't do that at all in Norway
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:37 pm PT
Oh I forgot to add one of my all time faves COLUMBO!!! I used to effing love that! I still do! Columbo is a genius! I only like the old ones though not more recent ones they made. And they still air Columbo even now It's a classic it will never go down I have liked that show since I was really young like 6 or 7
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:40 pm PT
Oh, I think Robert Vaughn took the Man from U.N.C.L.E. seriously. Even when he's kidding you think he's serious. I also liked Early Edition as well. I didn't watch much TV when I was growing up. I think Happy Days was one when I was younger. Friends was another but I wasn't that young and it ended when it should have. Shows I enjoyed that ended too soon are Space, Above and Beyond, Mann and Machine, Poltergeist: The Legacy, and the Dark Knight. I'm sure there are more but that's what I can think of right now. Jeffery
Posted Oct 8, 2009 3:56 pm PT
Watched a bit of Due South when I was younger but dont really remember it. Also Lois & Clark, but I remember it a bit more. But of these the one I watched the most, back in the day, was Early Edition. I have actually been considering rewatching it lately, start to finish. Might get around to it eventually.
Posted Oct 8, 2009 9:35 pm PT
@Jodie I only watch TV in Norway when I'm forced by my parents to sit and "talk" to them...
Posted Oct 9, 2009 1:50 am PT
Oh and as for guilty pleasures I guess that would be eastwick
Posted Oct 9, 2009 1:56 am PT
Hey Bea, cool idea. Most of those shows seem oddly familiar. I can't get on a ramble about Due South and Paul Gross and ckr again, I am such a broken record but you know that I am really glad, I came around to watch it, too. A-team, I remember that. Weirdly, I remember the weird guy and his "friend" made from a sock pulled over his hand... I think it might have only been one episode. lol... I never liked Bonaza. I think it is my lack of connection with westerns. My sister liked them, me not so much. Reminds me of Little House in the Prairy and the Waltons, which I didn't love but know more about. I have never seen Falcon Crest and McGyver really but I used to like the Fall guy. OMG, I didn't know that English title, thank god you put up a picture. What really shocks me is that apart from Max Headroom and Due South, I don't really know your rewatch stuff. The guy from uncle seems familiar though... Playing an invisible man? Which reminds me of Patrick Duffy playing the Man from Atlantis... Wow, a lot of odd shows in my childhood. Hulk also... I can't remember being religiously in love with a show before Twin Peaks... Here, I just couldn't missed it... Well, there was this childs series "Silas", mabe that would coun't. Great blog idea, seriously. I am shocked how many series I can think of... Oh, and here, I admit, I used to watch Melrose Place 1.0 *hides* It was always on a Saturday and all my girl friends watched it too.
Posted Oct 9, 2009 2:39 am PT
@Jodie: One non-ugly comment about ckr, it didn't slip my attention.
Posted Oct 9, 2009 2:40 am PT
Lois & Clark!!! I think you know I love L&C! L&C thought me obsession. Before L&C I never believed it was possible to love a tv show even half as much as I love L&C today. And, actually, if it wasn't for L&C, I'm not sure I would have been as obsessed as I am with SN. L&C is so easy going, I learned from it that love for TV is awesome, I'm not sure I'd be able to loose myself in such a heavy show as SN if I didn't already have another show (..if that makes sense...)
Other than that, from that list, I have only really seen MacGyver. It's kind of cheesy now, but he was the coolest guy ever 5-10 years ago I still enjoy occational eps, but not as much/often as I used to. It is still constantly on reruns on TV here. I remember once, probably 2 or 3 years ago, they came to the last ep, and, they didn't start all over again! It shocked pretty much everyone Was back on after not too long.
I have seen a bit of Bonanza, coz it's been on, but never really liked it much.
One show that I kind of miss is The Pretender. Maybe I should go find it sometime.
Posted Oct 9, 2009 9:53 am PT
daria: i haven't got any other tv.com friends who are "due south" fans. that's why i am so very excited about you and ela watching it! "mac gyver" really looks a bit cheesy nowadays. i really liked richard dean anderson though (even though his hairstyle is so incredibly out these days ) and i liked that he never carried a gun. "due south"'s storylines really are great and i just love diefenbaker. fraser and kowalski really had a great interaction and so did fraser and vecchio. i really liked "charmed" (well, i guess most of all brian krause ) and i thought that "firefly" was amazing and i really miss "terminator - the sarah connor chronicles". rats! how on earth could they ever cancel it! doogie howser was the first time i "met" nph. i don't recall it that well but i know, i liked it. i'm still catching up with battlestar galactica and so far (i'm close to season 1's finale) i think it's great. i've seen the first like four episodes of "harper's island" and i'm planning to watch the rest soon and "freaks and geeks" is on my schedule as well. "dead like me" is one of the best shows i've ever seen and i was really happy, they had the decency of not cancelling "jericho" for good after season 1 but give it some kind of an ending. season 1 was good but the few episodes of season 2 were amazing, proving what potential this show would have had. and jodie's right, "doctor who" is going to return. there are one or two more episodes with david tennant and after that there is going to be another "doctor". he seems like a good actor and an interesting choice but i'm really going to miss tennant. btw, up till now i don't think that "eastwick" is that bad ...
Posted Oct 9, 2009 12:45 pm PT
jodie: my favourite character on "the a-team" actually was murdock, he is the reason i still watch it from time to time. "lois & clark" is one of the reasons i never got into "smallville". for one "smallville"'s clark kent is too violent for my taste and i think it's rather ridiculous having people in their mid-twenties playing teenagers. "max headroom" really was a weird head thing *lol*, but compared to other shows from the eighties it was very well done and i really liked its slightly apocalyptic, "blade runner" type style. i used to love "i dream of genie", really funny show and the "addams family" was just great and so were "the munsters". i'm actually still planning to rewatch "the muppet show". it was on on saturday evenings and i think i didn't miss a lot of episodes, the only times i did was, when i was at sleep over at my grandparent's watching "columbo".
Posted Oct 9, 2009 12:57 pm PT
rebecca: i've rewatched "early edition" like two years ago and i still loved it. in my opinion it's one of the shows that don't go out of fashion or appear to be awkward after some time gone ...
Posted Oct 9, 2009 1:00 pm PT
jeffery: you really think he did? that's a thing i never really found out about. i still think though, that "the man from u.n.c.l.e." must have been quite revolutionary back in the day. to start with it had agents of all nations teaming up (like i had mentioned), it had female agents as well (after some time) and the enemy wasn't bad, bad sowjetunion but a fictional organisation ... . what i liked most about "early edition" was its deep humanity. i sometimes think that a show like that wouldn't be made anymore in the time after 9/11, which seems to have made the world and shows (as some kind of mirror) colder.
Posted Oct 9, 2009 1:08 pm PT
i'm so happy and excited, you are watching "due south", ela (i know i must sound like a broken record as well saying that again ). the weird guy in "the a-team" (murdock) is the one who made the biggest impression on me as well. i really used to love "bonanza". it was always on on monday evenings. when i became a scout leader, i couldn't watch it anymore since the meetings were on the same evening. almost broke my heart. ah yes, there's this "wonderful" thing about german show (and movie) titles. who in their right mind would call a show "ein colt fuer alle faelle" (that would have been the german title for "fall guy" meaning something along the line of "a colt - just in case")? another "favourite" title of mine was "trio mit vier faeusten" for the show "eptide", meaning "trio with four fists" (that's one i used to like as well, btw). i don't know if any of the guys from "the man from u.n.c.l.e." ever played an invisible man but david mccallum (the guy on the right side) is in "navy ncis" (i've just found out, that his full name is david keith McCallum so namewise he has quite something in common with ckr ). i'm still planning on watching "twin peaks" and of course i've seen "silas" and i loved it. do you rember "timm taler", that was another of my childhood favourites (but then again, i'm a bit older than your are ...)?
Posted Oct 9, 2009 1:29 pm PT
of course i know you love "lois & clark", after all we met at its forum, inger-anne. the show that left me totally addicted to shows in general and made me rewatch a lot of stuff was "lost" and what you say about needing to have a "chill out show" (not in terms of quality of course because "lois & clark" is brilliant imho), makes perfect sense. "supernatural" for instance really would be some kind of heavy to bear if it didn't provide some comical relief as well at times and if there weren't shows to relax with. mc gyver really was some kind of pretty cool guy, especially since he always used his head and never any weapons (i know, i have said that already but what can i do, i'm a hopeless pacifist ops.
Posted Oct 9, 2009 1:41 pm PT
Hi Bea Great blog My sister and I used to love Lois & Clark! I also loved Friends and Malcolm in the Middle And of course my guilty pleasure is Prison Break
Posted Oct 9, 2009 4:49 pm PT
i grew up watching Matlock, Columbo, MacGyver, Water Rats, NYPD Blue, Murder She Wrote etc. D: that doesnt mean i'm old or sth but just these shows were playing on tv and Matlock and Columbo and MSW were my grandfather's fave shows. and mine too i kinda miss matlock. that show was so funny
Posted Oct 10, 2009 2:15 am PT
Murdock! That's his name You are soooo right! The names are so stupid most of the time. Nowadays, they often don't translate. I certainly prefer it but my mother was asking me the other day what Burn Notice means and she is good with English. Anyhow, people should accustom to that. Cool, you saw Silas. I do remember the boy who sold his laugh. My biggest sister was into it but I din't watch in fully, I was a little scared.
Posted Oct 10, 2009 2:37 am PT
hey penny, "friends" was a great show as well, i never got into it too much though but my sister was totally addicted. "malcolm in the middle" (another wonderful show) is on endless re-runs on tv here so i hadn't even noticed it's been cancelled until a few weeks ago. i totally loved "prison break"'s seasons 1 and 2 but i was really disappointed about season 3. season 4 got better again but never reached the quality of the first two seasons anymore. i really hope we are going to get new stuff involving wentworth miller ...
Posted Oct 10, 2009 2:54 am PT
zala: strange enough i've never seen "murder she wrote" or "matlock" even they were on when i was growing up but i've seen an awful lot of "columbo" when i was at my grandparents'. that was a great show!
Posted Oct 10, 2009 2:55 am PT
ela: "silas" actually made the whole family sit down and watch it. "timm taler" was kind of creepy, the guy who played the devil was really scary. i actually think that it's a good idea, they are using the original titles for shows by now. i guess, most native speakers didn't know what a "burn notice" is either before it was explained on the show (if it actually really is something that exists by that name ...).
Posted Oct 10, 2009 5:08 am PT
Yes, I know we met there. And I think you know my love for L&C is as big as my love for SN. I don't think everyone else knows that ;P
Obviously, I do not mean L&C is a chill out show in terms of quality, but in terms of mythology. L&C is just the basic Superman mythology, and getting Lois and Clark together, SN is turning into being about the end of the world. I need my Superman rescuing the world from lethal viruses and astreoides etc., and always succeding, to balance watching the world crapping on Sam and Dean's head as they try to save the world in their way.
Yea, MacGyver was awesome like that. He always came up with a sulution to everything, and it was never guns. And as amazing as he was at getting out of trouble, he was still afraid of hights (Which I am not so I was cooler than him on that level).
Posted Oct 10, 2009 6:52 am PT
superman never had to struggle to save the world as much as sam and dean have. what i liked about him is, that he never took any revenge and that he never hurt anybody even though he could have smashed the bad guys with his little finger (do you know superman's song by the crash test dummies? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUIPlLw2ZE). it also was nice to see how hard clark on the other side had to fight to win over lois from her terrible crush on superman. what i really loved about the show was, that in the end superman only played a supporting role while the main focus was on lois lane and clark kent and their relationship. in a way, superman was clark's biggest obstacle in that. i didn't recall that mc gyver was afraid of heights, but i can perfectly understand that because i am too ... what i also loved was that "lois & clark" was a very liberal show. i remember the one scene where martha and jonathan told him, that they would have never sent him off to vietnam for instance ...
Posted Oct 10, 2009 7:18 am PT
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Posted Oct 10, 2009 7:21 am PT
LMAO What do you mean Bea? Having people in their mid twenties play teenagers is a staple of Hollywood!
Posted Oct 10, 2009 11:38 am PT
yes, i know, jodie and it's really bugging me. there even has been a forum about it on tv.com. has "smallville"'s clark kent become superman yet or is he still pretending to be in his teens, btw?
Posted Oct 10, 2009 12:07 pm PT
Too many shows, so little time. Now, I want to check out Due South too. The only ones I regularly watched (reruns) are MacGyver and A-Team. You watched a lot of 80s/90s shows. Thursday and Monday are the heavy days for TV-series watching. I used to watch reruns of Knight Rider, Wonder Years (love this show!), Small Wonder, Mission: Impossible, and I'm ashamed to say, Baywatch.
Posted Oct 11, 2009 8:54 am PT
Max Headroom. Hah!
Posted Oct 11, 2009 9:50 am PT
hey mack! i absolutely loved "the wonder years", i've completely forgotten to mention it, i guess it would be a show i'd still love by now. i watched a lot of "knight rider" as well but i'm not too sure if i still would today. you absolutely should check out "due south" btw!
Posted Oct 11, 2009 10:09 am PT
hey, auntarlene! long time no read ... welcome back! "max headroom" really was great and it still is ...
Posted Oct 11, 2009 10:10 am PT
i used to watch.. Bonanza, Due South, Early Edition, Lois and Clark, Water Rats, McLeod's Daughters, Heartbreak High, NYPD Blue, The Adventures of the Black Stallion, Black Beauty, The Cape,Special Ops Force, Coach, Dr Quinn, Family Ties,Heidi, Gilmore Girls, J.A.G, M'A'S'H, Married with Children, Pensacola: Wings of Gold, Roswell, Titus, Touching Evil, Will and Grace, Buffy, Pippi Longstocking and other Astrid Lindgren stuff............
Posted Oct 11, 2009 2:01 pm PT
True that.
Yea, the CTD's song fits the L&C Superman perfectly.
That's kind of the point of the show. It was about Lois and Clark, and Clark just happened to be Superman. I love that angle, more so than the movies etc, where he is Superman, and Clark is the disguise. After all, he was raised as Clark, not as Superman. Superman was "born" when Clark was in his 20's. It makes more sense to me that he sees himself as Clark, rather than Superman. I love in Tempus Fugitive when he says "Clark is who I am, Superman is just what I can do." Yep, Mac's scared of hights.
Posted Oct 13, 2009 7:05 am PT
"pippi longstocking" is one of my fondest childhood memories. the second movie i've ever seen in cinema was about her as well and i've seen tons and tons of "dr. quinn" over and over again (it was broadcasted in some kind of loop) and what else could i do with a hot guy like joe lando by her side?
Posted Oct 13, 2009 3:12 pm PT
inger-anne: if clark hadn't been raised in the loving environment he grew up in with the great values he learnt from his parents, his superman might have never become the wonderful caring and peaceloving character he is in "lois & clark" but rather a dark avenger like batman. so the way he is has a lot to do with the character and experience of his "human" self clark kent.
Posted Oct 13, 2009 3:17 pm PT
Very true.
Posted Oct 14, 2009 1:07 pm PT
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