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Tuesday, Sep 8, 2009

A car has 4 tyres. In most cases, these tyres are filled with air. If said car were to fall into a lake, the air in those tyres would not be able to keep the car afloat. Thus by extension, if you happened to be down at the bottom of the lake with the car, you would not be able to remove two bags from the boot of the car, deflate the tyres to fill them with air, then use them to float the car to the surface. You have not created any more air.

Transporter 3, I just owned your arse.

Of course movies like that aren't supposed to be realistic. But crikey, how could they let that pass? And why did the bad guy not put cameras and microphones in the car when he decked it out? That was just stupid.

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Posted by bacchus2, 5:26am
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It's akin to G.I. Joe. They blow up a glacier to make the pieces sink into the ocean and crush things not unlike giant rocks in Looney Tunes cartoons. Um, yeah. It doesn't quite work that way. Sometimes I rather hate being adept enough to see these things, because it ruins the movie a little bit for me.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 5:44 am PT
OMG Transporter 3 is such a ridiculous movie, one of the worst I've seen this year! It's full of those scenes you described ...
Posted Sep 8, 2009 6:30 am PT
It certainly takes you out of the movie when you notice something that has absolutely no logic. Sometimes I can ignore those scenes but they usually just ruin the movie.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 6:40 am PT
Maybe the Mythbusters should test that.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 6:52 am PT
Ah, welcome to the nerdy film pedant society . That kind of stuff annoys me too. Science inconsistencies annoy me more tho: Back to the Future time travel inconsistencies are the worst, and I don't even know anything about theoretical Physics.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 6:59 am PT
I'm not sure how to say this tactfully, so I'll just come out and say it:

I'm not sure why, but I love catching stuff like that in movies. Shooting dynamite to make it asploded in 3:10 to Yuma comes to mind.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 10:05 am PT
I always wonder what production meetings are like when similar head-scratching moments come into play. Maybe someone just stands up and says... "no big deal, were allowed to be outlandish"
Posted Sep 8, 2009 10:45 am PT
@bacchus2
Nice blog! I watched Transporter 3 around a week ago, sure the physics/logic behind was unrealistic, but that's what the viewers expect when Jason Statham is staring in it...just like with Arnold and JCVD
The thing that bothered me the most was that woman (forgot her name), she didn't fit that role at all.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 1:02 pm PT
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Posted Sep 8, 2009 1:08 pm PT
The first couple of Transporters were halfway decent, but #3 was pretty much just lame.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 2:11 pm PT
@mprezzy

THAT is the break in logic that concerned you about G.I. Joe? I thought it would have been the supposedly super-secret black-ops group running around Paris and blowing crap up with super-advanced weapons for everyone to see.

Anyway, movies, especially action movies, tend to have many, many breaks in logic. Unfortunately, this bleeds into real life. There are numerous cases of concerned citizens jumping headlong into a car wreck to save the poor victim before the car explodes with the force of the Hiroshima bomb like in the movies...but end up hurting the person even more. Movies and TV have given people the idea that cars ALWAYS explode after getting in a bad wreck, when in reality modern cars usually have safety features to prevent just that. You should NEVER move a car crash victim unless you actually see the car on fire because, unless you are a qualified doctor, you have no way of knowing how badly hurt they are.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 3:03 pm PT
Also comes into effect when cops or SWAT or something kill a suspect. Then they are drilled by people who have never even held a BB gun, yet alone a real gun, who keep asking why they couldn't just shoot the gun out of the person's hand like they do in the movies. In reality, cops, soldiers, and anyone else trained to handle weapons are always taught to go for a killing shot in these situations to remove the threat as soon as possible before innocent people are hurt. In a hostage situation, SWAT snipers are taught to aim at either the very base of the skull or the tip of the nose, because then the bullet will go right through and sever the spinal cord in the only place in the human body that guarantees a clean, quick kill 100% of the time without any chance of that person still being in a position to do harm. But because the good guys shoot weapons out of the bad guy's hand all the time the general public has the idea that it is an easy thing to do, and thus look down on cops for using lethal force in situations that the book teaches them to use lethal force in. Never mind the fact that they never consider that the bad guy might have a back up weapon in real life, so shooting the gun from his hand can backfire in that way too.

In other words, logic in movies is as much of a fairy tale as unicorns and the female orgasm. It is just a shame that the average person doesn't seem to realize that.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 3:07 pm PT
@raven28256: Well, I can remove myself from realism for some things that are clearly blatant, it's when they try to pass off the ignorance about laws of nature subtly. It makes me feel as though they just didn't know that ice floats.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 4:41 pm PT
I love you bacchus. I find things like that very amusing. What I find more amusing are the knobs that think they have suddenly been let in on a secret about how to save themselves in an emergency event. That movie was just so very lame.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 7:34 pm PT
@mprezzy
You mean Looney Toons didn't have logic? How dare you!

@nicklech16
I can't say anything else in the movie approached that level of stupidity. Absurb action, yes, which is expected, but not an absolute denial of physics.

@MJoanne
See above

@Pierst179
But it isn't a myth... it's just dumb.

@Joker_Wylde
I don't mind over the top action, like him flipping the car in number 2, so long as it has SOME level of physical plausibility (however unlikely it would be).

@EarthThatWas
I know there are plenty of these I have seen though nothing else comes to mind right now. I think this scene has elevated itself above all others and blocked the others out.

@Dreski83
I don't get it either. For one person to come up with this idea, I might be able to understand, but for not one person to raise their voice during story-writing or production?

@Artemios
I didn't think she was too bad. But then you don't expect realistic relationships in these kinds of movies.

@payne6705
I will consider myself warned.

@polsci1503
Funnily, the guy at the video store said he thought that the first two were cheesy and this was the best one. I assumed they would have gone down hill. It was still decent for what it was, just not great.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 7:56 pm PT
@raven28256
I've actually seen a cop show where they did shoot a weapon out of a guys hand. He was on a lawn chair at the edge of the road waving his gun, but they patterned his moves and a sniper shot it out of his hand. However there weren't any people around except the cops I'm pretty sure.

@kellymae
You mean... swim to the freaking surface?
Posted Sep 8, 2009 7:56 pm PT
To be fair, it's more realistic than MacGuyver!
Posted Sep 8, 2009 8:00 pm PT
@Foolz3h
What are you talking about? Creating a tank from a paperclip, blu-tack and three inches of string is completely feasible.
Posted Sep 8, 2009 11:04 pm PT
worst physics engine ever.
Posted Sep 9, 2009 1:55 am PT
I've seen that video too. It was a one in a million shot, and not something that the police normally attempt. If I remember correct, the guy was suicidal, so they tried it because the only person in immediate danger was the suspect himself. If it was a hostage situation, shooting the gun out of his hands wouldn't have even been considered; if the sniper was required to shoot it would have been a kill shot.
Posted Sep 9, 2009 6:37 pm PT
After reading that, I have a veritable laundry list of movies to avoid.

I'll bet, however, that the decision to green light that scene went something like this...

Skeptic: "Won't people notice that the drowned-car scene is unrealistic?"
Supporter: " 'Jackass 2: the Movie' sold tickets "
Skeptic: "Okay... you win."
Posted Sep 9, 2009 11:08 pm PT
Note to self - don't try the above.
Posted Sep 14, 2009 3:24 am PT
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