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Friday, Oct 26, 2007

Well I succumbed to tempation earlier and bought the new Pro Evo, PES 2008, partly because I am a sucker for Evo but more importantly because I have bought everyone of them on release day before and I didn't want to break with tradition. Now normally at this stage I would be tearing the game new one because of all the changes that have been made and how I don't agree with them. However, this time I find myself liking it and that is disturbing.

The main thing that I can't seem to get my head around is how similar this game feels to the last one and I don't quote know what to make of it.Are the changes so subtle than you simply can't see them or is it simply that there aren't manyimprovementsbarring the visuals and commentary?I would like to say it is the former but to be honest I am starting to think this isn't much more advanced than the previous instalment in the series.

Sure there are changes andsome of them are for the better. Gone are the days when Peter Brackleyand Terry Butcher would infuriate me by telling meI am making a defensive substitution by bringing on a centre forwardto be replaced withimproved commentary from Jon Champion and Mark Lawrenson. The visuals look much better and I am sure it would look special on a HDTV, but even on my SD set the changes are noticeable but that seems to be where everything comes to a standstill.

The dribbling, whilst seemingly slower, is not much different to thatfeatured inPro Evo 6. Now this isn't a bad thing because I liked that feature of the previous game but a little morerefinement, other than a slowdown,would have been nicer. In fact the same can be said for most of the gameplay, it's all so similar to Pro Evo 6 that PES 2008 seems to lack its own identity.

However, it isn't all doom and gloom because like I said I do actually like the game and the ability to save replaysimproved editingfeatures this time aroundare most welcome on the 360.Whilst I would like to thank Konami for including them, in the same breath I must find myself asking why the 360 got such a dumbed down version of Pro Evo last time around?

But after the marginal praise comes the grumble and considering I am playing this game on the 360 I shouldn't have to contend with slowdown but that is a problem that hounds this game especially in replays and when there is a lot happening on-screen. I could understand if this game was challenging the hardware capacity of the 360 but we're talkinga sports game with goodvisuals here, not Oblivion. Now I tried to investigate this further and upon taking control of replays with the right analog stick I tried to slow the game down to a frame by frame replay and I had a problem because it seemed like there were frames missing which made the action jut rather than flow. However, I am not saying that means the developers have chopped frames in order to make the action easier to handle in replays I am simply saying that to an untrained eye such as mine it looked like frames were missing. What this means I'll let others look into but try it for your next action packed replay.

My final early gripe is a big one for me and that is in-game advertising. I hate it in any games but I have tolerated it for sports titles like this because if you go to a football game or watch it on the TV you can see advertisements on the boards around the pitch. I have accepted that but that is where the adverts should stay. I was playing the Master League earlier and noticed an advert for Play.com staring me in the face. Now for the Master League all I want to see is league table and upcoming fixtures not adverts. Not content with invading every physical space in our lives advertisers have infiltrated our virtual worlds too and personally think it stinks.

So after all thatis it worth going out and buying PES 2008 if you already have Pro Evo 6? Well in my opinion yes, but it's not as much of a leap as Pro Evo 5 to 6, in fact this time itseems more like a babystep.

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Posted by Thingol4, 3:05pm
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I've only played the demo, but I'm undecided. My friend got me into Pro Evo at number 4, and since then, I've had 5 and 6. 6 was a big disappointment on the 360. I think I need to rent 2008 to make up my mind.

One question Thingol: do you know if you can use your Master League team online? Even if it is just for Player Matches. That was something sorely missing from the last game.
Posted Oct 27, 2007 2:34 am PT
Personally I do like the game it just feels more like Pro Evo 6.5 rather than Pro Evo 7. I'm not sure about taking your Master League team online since I haven't been on Live with the game yet but if I had to guess I would say no because it would be tough to match up teams with similar abilities. It would annoy me if I got matched up against a full strength team with a Master League side I had only just started building. Then there is the chance to cheat. Master League sides develop and if I were to take my team online then I would want to keep the improvements but that is obviously open to people who would edit every player and give them 99, 99, 99 etc...

Definately rent it and see what you think but if I were you I would get down to Asda and pick it up for £35, bargain
Posted Oct 27, 2007 5:11 am PT
Yeah, I'm tempting to just go out and get it. But Blue Dragon, Forza 2, and Super Paper Mario are still looming large. Guitar Hero 3 is out next month, too, which will kill so many hours. Plus there is Mass Effect and that whole university malarkey Good point about the ML teams on Live. Still, in player matches, it would be fun to pit your own team against friends.
Posted Oct 27, 2007 5:46 am PT
Yes Andy, I have realised you have developed quite a liking toward PES2008. Nah, I am the least interested in sports games, and I don't think you can convince me anytime soon.
Posted Oct 27, 2007 6:21 am PT
You never told me if the Zidane headbutt was in Andy?
Posted Oct 28, 2007 8:56 am PT
@Paul: It turns out you can use Master League teams but any player growth, edited kits or edited team names arn't carried over so it is pretty useless.

@Jude: *tries hypnosis* You will grow to love it, you wiiiillllll....

@Ron: They seem to have left it out the lousy barstewards!
Posted Oct 28, 2007 9:48 am PT
Yeah it is PS

Visit my account =P
Posted Oct 28, 2007 10:07 am PT
Yeah the in-game advertising is plain annoying, especially the IGN.com one, a website that gave the game a 9.2 or something... wow what a coincidence.
Posted Nov 2, 2007 12:15 pm PT
Good point there Craig, I haven't read the IGN review, or the GS one for that matter yet.
Posted Nov 2, 2007 2:30 pm PT
We used to have a soccer game for the Super Nintendo. It was pretty fun. I don't think I've played any soccer games since then though. We have Mario Strikers, but I don't think that counts as professional soccer. Too bad they left out the Zidane headbutt. Man. That would have been a great addition.
Posted Nov 5, 2007 1:33 am PT
It would have been worth the red card just to pull it out every now and again!
Posted Nov 5, 2007 7:27 am PT
Interestingly enough, even though I played soccer/football for 8 years...I never found myself interested in the games or any other sports titles for that matter. I guess I'm kinda with Jude on this one
Posted Nov 5, 2007 10:24 am PT
I dont like sports games... But I feel bad reading a blog without posting something
Posted Nov 9, 2007 8:57 am PT
I erm... I hate football. I'm English and I hate football... So I have never tried...well...any of the Pro Evo games...
Posted Nov 13, 2007 11:41 am PT
Yeah. I think that would be worth the redcard Thingol. It'd be entertaining to watch.
Posted Dec 17, 2007 2:48 am PT
I'd hold the GameSpot one in higher regard if i were you.
Posted Jan 5, 2008 4:27 am PT
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