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Saturday, Oct 24, 2009

Lets be honest, we all like a deal right? But is there a distinction to be made between using deals to your advantage, and taking advantage of a companie's deal?

I'm on the fence. Part of me feels that since I'm not doing anything illegal, and I'm merely taking advantage of a companie's own stupidity, its really just a clever gain. This aspect is heightened by the fact that I've had some utterly horrid experiences with the companies I take advantage of the most (EBgames/GameStop and BlockBuster Video) so there's a little bit of "stick it to the man" type moxy to it.

Take BlockBuster Video for example. Last month, they had a promo here in Canada in which they were clearing out thier pre-owned video games with a "buy 2 get 1 free deal". They were also running a deal in which any current gen game was worth a minimum of $10 trade. The joke is, they sell some of those used games for only $9.99!! THINK ABOUT IT!! You could go into a blockbuster and buy 3 used games priced at $9.99 for only $20 (because the 3rd $10 game is free) and then EACH of those games is still worth a minimum of $10 apiece (so $30 in credit for what just cost you $20).So I took that $30 in credit, bought more $9.99 games (every 3rd one free remember) and flipped those back in for $10 apiece and so on and so forth. You basically gain $10 every time you flip a set of 3 $9.99 titles. I ended up getting a brand new extra retail game ($59.99 value) because every time I swapped games, I put the extra credit on gift cards.

Is it wrong for me to do that? I mean, if a company is stupid enough to keep giving me $30 trade for stuff I just bought from THEM for $20, is it wrong for me to purposely flip those games in a few times to gain that $10 each time? I mean, they're setting thier trade prices, I'm just smart enought to work the system right? Or am I being fraudulant at this point?

Same applies to the deals you see at EBgames/Gamestop. When they have those "trade 3 used titles get a brand new game" deals on, I'm all over that! They usually restrict the deal to games that trade in for at least $8 or higher, but even still, there are deals to be had. For example, I just purchased "Uncharted 2" and "Demon Souls" for my PS3 based purely off those 3 for 1 deals, and it cost me about $50 total for both games. I just used that buy 2 get 1 free used deal at BlockBuster to purchase used games on the cheap, and provided they count for the GameStop promo, those 3 used games (that just costme like $30 or so at BBV) are traded for a brand new $69.99 game at Gamestop or EBgames under their 3 for 1 deal.

This of course is all aside from the other deals that are to be had, such as digging rare games out of pawn shops and garage sales and flipping them on Ebay and the likes for big money (a copy of Final Fantasy VII fished out of a garage sale for $5 can fetch you upwards of $60 on Ebay for example). Pawn shops are a goldmine if you know whats rare and what'll re-sell for profit.

So should one feel bad about taking advantage of these deals and loop-holes? I mean, retailers are making thier money, especially when you see EBgames/GameStop locations popping up everywhere. And those companies set thier own promotions and prices. So is it wrong to take advantage of them when the situation presents itself?

The question is folks, where does your morality sit in regards to deals in gaming? Are you a savy shopper? A crafty crook? Just a guy who relishes the hunt of a sweet deal?

Category: Editorial
Posted by TheKungFool, 12:40pm
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I love this! You are the man.

Just last week I bought a bunch of 1.5L of Magellan gin because they were only $25 each (usually $30 for a 750ml) so i swooped and bought 4. Not as good as your making money deal, but it was the best i could do at the time.
Posted Oct 24, 2009 2:55 pm PT
Frankly, I don't think you are doing anything wrong Adam. It's the company's own fault for setting themselves up to be okie-doke'd. It's their responsibility to set restrictions for the deals. If they don't do so, then they get what they deserve.
Posted Oct 24, 2009 9:20 pm PT
@ N8A - I guess the difference there would be....would you ever attempt to return something you bought on sale for full price? or something to that effect. Basically, I'm not just buying the item at a low price, I'm purposely flipping it back on them at profit to me, and subsequent loss for them, lol.

@ SAVOY PRIME - Thats how I feel friend, that I'm merely taking advantage of some companie's stupidity really, but when I brag about my "finds", I'm always shocked when a few people (minority granted) give me that "you really did that" look of dissaproval.
Posted Oct 24, 2009 10:07 pm PT
I always laugh seeing GS saying my 'Estimated Collection Value' is $1,699.15, it's not even 1/4 of the price even though every single game I add to my collection is original (I have very few pirated games but I don't treat them as part of my collection), about 10 of them are bought in a second hand shop or from ebay (but that's rather because it was the only way I could get them, these are the TR and Final Fantasy games for PSX and old Fatal Frame games that were never released in my country AFAIK) and several are from gaming magazines.

I got mad this month, I bought a magazine for 14.99 zł (about 3$?) and there was a game included I bought one year ago for 79zł and still haven't got time to play it, now I have two copies .__.
Posted Oct 25, 2009 12:22 am PT
@ SKI-IA - thats a good point too! how often do you buy something, not get around to playing it, and then by the time you do, its only a fraction of the original price anyways!? I've actually still got one or two full $59.99 games sitting untouched on my shelf, so its not really a "deal" if I got them cheap, since they'll be cheap anyways when I finally play them, haha
Posted Oct 25, 2009 9:24 am PT
If Blockbuster was stupid enough to overlook that, then go for it! I see nothing wrong with making money legally when the opportunity presents itself. That's how the whole economy works when you think about it.
Posted Oct 25, 2009 7:59 pm PT
I myself don't judge the act in itself, TKF. I mean, it all depends on who you're dealing with. If it were a store known for treating its costumers well, polite employees, good policies and that generally offered good deals, I'd say you should have pointed to them that selling $20 in games and them buying them back for $30 is not exactly a good deal.
But we're talking Game Stop. A place widely known for strict price policies, selling opened games as new and whose employees you had problems yourself. Those guys live on making good deals, buying cheap stuff and selling it for a higher price. I'd pat yourself in the back if I could.
Posted Oct 26, 2009 4:51 am PT
i know what you're gonna be for halloween...a PIRATE!!! argh! or wait, maybe a government official? which is more corrupt?
lol
that's awesome bro, i need to start being more aware of deals like that.
i only do the "free" rentals from gamestop, in which you purchase a used game, hold onto the receipt, then return it within a week for your money back, no questions.
Posted Oct 26, 2009 7:47 am PT
@ GAMER GIRL - very true, if stores have the right to make money, so too do I

@ AKHORAHILL - you make a very good point. had the deal been at a store that I respect and recieve excellent treatment from, I probably wouldn't have chosen to take such rampant abuse of the system. And yes, GameStop policy of selling opened and unsealed products for full retail new price is nothing short of dumbfounding and completely absurd.

@ ALKALINE DNB - GameStop locations, at least here in Ontario Canada don't allow that any longer. They now place a sticker over the pre-owned product, and disallow its return if that "seal is broken". Which as AkhoraHill above you pointed out, is quite silly when ajoined with their policy of reselling opened or display products for full retail new value (not that thier used prices are anything to get excited about anyways, being barely $5 different from the new price anyways)
Posted Oct 26, 2009 9:02 am PT
It's generally harder for the end customer to avoid being screwed over, we just see the pricetag in the store, and the only thing we can do is to compare it to other stores. How do you estimate the actual value of a game? It is immaterial apart from the optical medium it comes on, the case, the box, etc. The game might be crap, are you then prepared to pay list price for it? Even games that aren't in particularly high demand are often sold at list price - at least initially. Some stores then try to clear games out eventually - lowering the price to make the games appeal more to you and me - but far from all of them do, and prices may vary greatly between stores.

The store is only a middle man between the supplier and customer, buying some other company's product and then selling it to you for a profit. And these deals likely just mean a little less profit for them in their hopes of attracting customers; it's likely a "loss" - most likely not really a loss, but a strategic marketing decision - that they can afford.
Posted Oct 28, 2009 11:29 am PT
This is really their problem. I wouldn't feel particularly bad about doing this, I don't see why you should either. You may get screwed over often when you are unaware of it, because, well, most company owners aren't content with barely making ends meet, and this is what they're making money off of doing. Surely you don't think that the owner of Gamestop has these same kinds of thoughts about the anonymous mass of customers - or yourself in particular? From an objective perspective, I can't see how you're neither better nor worse than them for what you're doing. But who can be objective when it comes to money? I don't care if you manage to "trick" a company; it doesn't concern me - I'm just trying not to get screwed over myself. That said, I really hate those companies on auction sites whose items overwhelm every page as you're browsing around, trying to sell retro games for ridiculous sums.
Posted Oct 28, 2009 11:30 am PT
@ DOUBUTSUTEKI - some very good points indeed; when you remind yourself that a store is really just a middleman who makes their profit on the margins, its really a buyer-beware situation in which its up to us to make our "best deal".....
Posted Oct 30, 2009 8:10 am PT
It's not fraudulent. They should put restrictions so people can't take advantage. Working at Best Buy, I have seen people try to do price matches AND a coupon but you better believe they don't allow it.
Posted Nov 2, 2009 9:19 pm PT
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