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Oops, looks like my Wii blog post was too long - making a part 2 now.
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Nintendo's E3 2008 Press Conference Impressions.
Have you ever watched the channel "C-SPAN"? If you have, you'll understand how I felt while watching Nintendo's press conference: in fact, it was even worse than watching CSPAN. It was that bad.You have to understand why so many people here at Gamespot reacted so - I can't truly find the right word to describe this but - "against" Nintendo after E3, in fact; I'd say all the blame should have been put on the Wii fans. What did they do? They created threads with games, or what Nintendo "might" show - and all the sheep spouted out was "wait till E3". You know, it's funny - so many times I have heard Sony fans and even some Microsoft fans get bashed for "waiting" yet Nintendo fans never were called out on it.
Aw, I'm off-base now - back to the point at hand and my review of what Nintendo accomplished: nearly putting me to sleep. I am one of those few people who can go to the theaters and sit through a 3 hour movie like the Terminal and never get tired - however, Nintendo's E3 conference managed to make me drowsy from the sheer dull-bland showing. I wasn't alone when I thought it was a giant bomb - MadExponent said the following: "Geez...this is a massive faceplant". Indeed that doesn't even describe the vast volume of FAILURE in which encompassed Nintendo's showing. therealmcc0y rhetorically asked: "This is where gaming is heading?" A question which is lingering in the back of many gamers' minds. Throughout the entire E3 press conference, nothing major was announced - at the end of the day Wii gamers had the following: MotionPlus, an add-on to the Wii mote controller; WiiSpeak, a mic for the Wii; Wii Sports 2; Animal Crossing; and Wii Music. Saying the following: "this is the worst conference i've ever seen" became objective, the conference truly was worse than any conference I've ever seen - even worse than Nintendo's E3 2007 showing.
Some Wii fans still had hope as the showing was coming to a close. BigGimp77 said the following: "they still have a chance to redeem themselves..." But when the showing abrubtly ended - I was not alone when I said, "That's it?".
tman93: I want to kick my Wii right now.
sam280992: Wow... ![]()
aznfool07: That's it....? ![]()
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-Karmum-:...that is it. ![]()
NightMare63: OMG, they really ended it like that...
MikeE21286: OMG thats it! Worst press conference I have ever watched.
darkslider99: Is that it...? It's over...?
VGobbsesser: ...That's it?![]()
krp008: Its over?!?! worst. conference. EVERRRR!
terdoo: Well....that was the worst press confrence Iv ever seen.
whocares4peace: That was it?
Iamshivy: lol well that was sad.
Sargentbotk: LOL nozzelda or anything?! Nintendo lost my respect...
Xscrapzx: WOW! That had to be the worst E3 conference I have ever seen.
villa4europe:
is there a form somewhere where i can apply to get my wasted time back?
darkslider99: I can't believe I wasted an hour on this...
kudols: That was seriously it...
Looks like my Wii wont be getting much use this year...
killab2oo5: ...That was pretty..............horrible. I was expecting it to get better,
but it never did.
MadExponent: What a HORRIBLE time to be a Wii owner.
BeanTownBrown86: BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
ShaneBeck: Oh my God
That was terrible.
Blizzvalve: Wow. I'm......speechless.....on how bad that conference was
VD_Demon-101: lol WTH?
sensesxfail:...Just wow.Just...WOW.
web966:That was a joke
ironcreed: That's it? A pretty damn weak showing for Nintendo
There was a lot more as well - I'm sorry if I didn't sueeze you in there, however, there was just too many damn comments talking smash about the E3 press conference. In conclusion, I have to say that Nintendo proved to us that they can truly talk out of their ass. Promise without deliverance. Nintendo promises innovation, but the titles they shown showed nothing of the sort - where is gaming headed Nintendo? Do you care about the core gamers - or do you only care about stealing money from consumers?
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(UPDATE: 1)
Nintendo is making millions off of you -- the idiot (Uninformed consumer):
Have you ever wondered just about how much Nintendo makes off the Wii? Well, I wish I knew the numbers now. But I don't -- since, Nintendo wouldn't release those numbers because it would show their true colors. The color of green that is -- for greed. But hey, again... this is business and this is Nintendo we're talking about here, not Microsoft and not Sony. Both Sony and Microsoft have taken tremendous steps this generation, both of which have caused them a large hit financially. Nintendo? They took baby steps and are surviving this generation by living off the Wii hype and its controller(which I'll make an addition chapter solely for the controller later on), and thanks to WiiSports, the controller is a hit.
And they recognize how important that game was to them as well, hence why they're making a sequel -- which will, without a doubt, be the best seller on the Wii system. And this is sad, but I'm not here to talk about sales to you -- hardware sales, software sales -- both are bogus to the point of this chapter. What is the point you might ask? How much Nintendo is selling their console for - and how they will *most likely* never lower the price. Let's go back in time to December of 2006, back at this point in time, Engadget reported on a story about Wii manufacturing costs located here. I'll summarize it for you, even though it's short -- Nintendo's brainchild is only costing $158.30 to manufacture -- and there you go.
Let me give you a FAQ:
- Q: What does this mean? A: Nintendo made nearly $100 profit off each Wii sold from the START, where manufacturing costs are at its apex.
- Q: Why is this important? A: Their report was conducted when manufacturing costs are at its apex, meaning as time goes on, costs decrease rather dramatically. The Wii uses hardware which is extremely inexpensive to manufacture, yet the price in which they sell it at remains the same.
- Q: Why won't Nintendo lower the price of the Wii? A: They have no reason to -- they're making millions off of you, if you stop buying it -- they'll lower the price.
I can't even imagine how low manufacturing costs must be right now for Nintendo, and yet they still sell the overpriced POS, that is the Wii, at its full price. Consumers look at this as a bargain, I call them idiots - they're the uneducated, misinformed morons who buy the system because they're caught up in the Wii craze. And the Wii will *most likely* always sell at that price because of just HOW much the Wii sells. It's flat-out remarkable that SO MANY Wiis are continually being sold.
Good job Nintendo, you succeeded in conning the non-gamers.
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I'll first off start by saying that I think the Nintendo Wii sucks. Oh my word, did I just truly say the highest selling console right now, the indisputable winner right now (in the sales department), sucks? Yep, also, remember that this is coming from my personal experience with the console and I'm going to tell you why I, personally, dislike it. Of course, everything is subjective - you may love this console, and it's perfectly fine if you do - but I'm just expressing why I dislike it. So, with the ever-so growing sheep population (Wii fanboys), the flood of them here, well... just makes me dislike the system even more. Now, if the Wii fans could actually defend their system and bring up good arguments, and be able to lash out quickly and effectively without ever mentioning "SALES", I would respect them; however, the only thing I hear from the sheep is sales... sales, and did I mention sales? But anyways, don't get me wrong, I'm actually quite glad to see Nintendo throw Sony off it's high position and supposedly "untouchable" position in the console gaming market; however, honestly, this has got to stop - the Wii sucks. I've been following this Wii fad, very long fad that is, since the launch. It's been amusing, it's been interesting and sometimes even downright shocking.
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UPDATE(1): First, let's figure out why it has such great sales. Here is the reasons why it sells fantastic compared to that of to the other consoles sales rate:
1. - Low Price for One SKU (No confusion between different SKUs)
2. - Main Demographic is non-gamers and/or Casual gamers
3. - Mario and the old renowned Nintendo franchises.
4. - Marketing to younger audiences (catering to the family)
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Sales:
1. - The one SKU has truly helped the Wii out - there's absolutely no confusion what-so-ever on what SKU is right for you. The one thing I see for Nintendo that I applaud them for, and I really like this - I wish Microsoft and Sony could have gone with this approach. When a consumer wants a Wii, they can go out and ask simply "Can I have a Wii?". There's no confusion. Let's say a consumer wants a Xbox 360 - they're asked, "Which one, the Arcade? The Premium? The Elite? Or the Halo Edition?" The only SKU that sounds self-explanatory is the Halo edition, the consumer will without a doubt ask what's the difference. With the Wii, there is none of that.
The sweet spot of 250 dollars, American. Now, 250USD is a bit overpriced for what you're paying for - however, many uneducated consumers do not see this and believe it's a bargain when they see the price of the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 and compare those prices to the Wii. That price mark has been the top selling point for every single console, the Playstation 2 and the Xbox both sold tremendously well at or near that price mark and still sell well to this day (The PS2 that is).
2. - There's no denying the fact that the Wii caters to the younger audience. There's also no denying that the Wii is a family oriented console. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad console when it does this, but it can really add to the sales boom when you have millions of parents buying this console for their children. Nintendo's main demographic is the non-gamers an/or casual gamers. The ones who really don't take gaming seriously, they play for fun. They don't care if their game has the best graphics, the best story and the best sound design. They only care if their game nails that "30 seconds of fun". Which again, isn't all that bad because there are a lot of casual gamers out there. All Nintendo had to do was release the old franchise hits and boom, they got themselves a winner.
3. - Without a doubt, the best games out on the Nintendo Wii are additions to old and renowned Nintend franchises that have been with us since the dawn of gaming. These first-party titles have shaped Nintendo to the developer that they are today - and saying that they are a crappy developer is like calling the United States a communist country. Yeah, that bad. Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have made the Wii a contendor against the other consoles libraries, and quite frankly, without these titles the Wii truly has, well, nothing. Consumers see these new additions and buy it for these games, they remember playing them on the N64, they remember playing it on the Gamecube, so they buy a Wii just to get these rather, unique, and fun exclusives that Nintendo makes.
4. - The marketing of the Wii has been spot-on. Why? Look who the commercials are portraying. Non-gamers having fun. Parents, seniors, children all see this and immidiately go, hey that's Nintendo, and hey that looks like fun. Let's look at some of the pictures, some of the marketing:


As you can see, these are not "gamers". They're non-gamers who look like they're having "fun" so that attracts the large croud of casual gamers and/or non gamers.
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My Reasons why Nintendo's Wii console sucks:
Reason 1.) Games:
The majority of them are shovelware, mediocre titles which are hurting the gaming industry. And shall I bring out the stats - yes - let us look at the stats. According to Gamerankings.com: within the past twelve months, the Xbox 360 has had 37 games over the score of 80%; the PS3 has 24 games above 80%; the PC has 26 games above the score of 80%; last of all, the Wii has a whopping 9 games above 80%. So, to begin stating my point, at system wars a system is judged by the number of quality of games available on that system of choice, if the system lacks a lot of quality games, of course, the general concensus is that it's a lesser console. Don't like Gamerankings? Here is a bigger shock according to Metacritic: 30.16% of the Wii's titles have scored above 70%. That means a whopping 69.84% of Wii titles score - according to the US grading scale - score a D or and F. Is this the future of gaming?
Reason 2.) High Definition (or lack there-of):
Technically, it might be possible for a Wii game to have high definition, but it's a farfetched excuse or as I would put it, implausible. Since the Wii is, again technically, more powerful than the Xbox, a console which could do 720p High Definition with some of its games - it's possible for the Wii to have it. However, due to both a laughable amount of system RAM and less processing power when compared to true High Definition consoles like Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, the chance that Wii games will break the 480p visual mark is about as slim as Hilary Clinton winning the Presidential nomination.
For Nintento to not support High Definition... is quite the wrong move, in my opinion. In today's world - this is irrational and completely and utterly unacceptable. Again, one may call this minor but the PC has had High Definition for many, many years - the fact that the Wii can't even do it is downright pathetic. High Definition is the future - the future is now - hell, even Nintendo doesn't even call their system next generation, or even capable of High Definition.
Reason 3.) DVD and/or Blu-Ray Playback (or lack there-of):
Wii games, and Gamecube games are use their own format which technically means you can't play a DVD in a Wii. Yes - that means no DVD playback. "What? But Gamespot confirmed that maybe in 2007, DVD playback will be available for Wii owners." Apparantly, you must've have been mistaken since the Wii doesn't even have the most basic feature which even consoles from last generation has had - DVD playback. The Playstation 2 and Xbox had DVD playback, yet supposedly this "New-Generation" console doesn't have a feature which should be standard anyways?
Reason 4.) The Controller:
Yes, I said it - the controller was a lame and knee-jerk idea. It's there to distract you from what you're buying. Are you buying the Wii for the console or are you buying it for the controller to waggle around? The controller is dumbing down the industry - the Wiiis dumbing down the industry. The latest and most heart-felt issue is the .5 increment scale here at Gamespot - made so the "Wii Gamers (Irony)" can clearly see what is simple and what is not. The Wii's controller is a gimmick. I even hate the Playstation 3 controller yet I'd pick it over a Wii controller any day. Also, sidenote here: Motion Sensing technology is not new, nor revolutionary. Nintendo did not start it - it began back in the 80s, by Microsoft. Fancy that.
As for the Gamespot remark, the old Gamespot score system was a lot more complex - I'm assuming, since none of us really truly know why they chanced it, Gamespot probably felt as though a .5 incremental scale would be easier to follow and implement than the .1 scale; which, technically, it's a lot less complex and the way they grade games no longer is based on five simple principles: graphics, sound, tilt, gameplay, and replay. Because the Wii has brought in a lot of casual gamers, or the non-gamers - I'm sure by now, the majority of the traffic here at Gamespot are not gamers which take gaming seriously(SystemWars call them "Hardcore gamers"). I take the time to read through reviews, and the Wii reviews are just lacking in quality - reviewers now, I feel are inexperienced, a huge Nintendo game - specificly Brawl, was reviewed by an inexperienced reviewer. Is this really teh future of Gamespot? Reviews are no longer on time - is the Wii truly to blame for all this? Surely... no, shoot - I'm off base here. My apologies.
Reason 5.) Hardware:
Pretty simple and self-explanatory. The Wii was outdated before it even shipped. Now that's sad, at least when the Xbox 360 launched it was faster than all PC available until a few months when it was dethroned. Which is expected, but the fact that it still pushes games to limits making them look astounding is a clear example of great hardware. The Wii's graphics can be compared to that of the PS2s - or even the PS1 sometimes.
Reason 6.) Mario:
I get it - Nintendo loves this guy, but when is enough, enough? Nintendo fans, you've been playing the same ol' Mario games forever. It's time for Nintendo to make a quality new IP, which sounds impossible I know - but honestly, the top selling games on the Wii are Mario, Mario and oh yeah, Mario.
Reason 7.) Online:
The online on the Wii is comparable to that of the PC - back in 95'. It's bad - finding a match, or playing a match in Brawl over online is well, difficult. For me at least it was. The service is no where near the level of quality such as Xbox Live, or even close to to the PSN and even the PSN sucks.
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UPDATE(2) - The Wii Fanboy:
Out of all the fans here at Gamespot, the most outspoken of them is the Wii fanboy - "Sheep" as SystemWars calls them. They're charismatic, they're the "casual" gamers as I would put it. They enjoy to sit back and enjoy Nintendo games, mostly the old franchises that everyone has been playing since the dawn of gaming. You know, Mario, Zelda, Smash Brothers, Metroid and Sonic. The Wii fan will constantly tout their consoles' hardware sales and its sales rate compared to the other two consoles.
That's because it's almost the only thing they have to fall-back on, they have nothing else going for their system save one other thnig. And it's quite the argument, really. One could say "Since the Wii is selling so great, it has to be the best console available"; however, sales does not dictate quality. Ask Britney Spears, who has sold millions upon millions of albums that are crap. It's the quite the argument to go against. There's no way to dispute the success that the Wii has endured for its sales has been, never-the-less, surprising. However, pointing out a simple flaw though always gets them going to their next fallback.
"The Wii library is crap compared to the other consoles."
Simple concept; wouldn't you say? The Wii has a large amount of shovelware titles (shovelware implying that the creators chose the content material indiscriminately, as if with a shovel, rather than hand-picking quality work). Not only this, but only a select few titles have reach AAA status and the majority of these titles we've seen before. However, the Wii fanboy will fallback to their last defensive option: Game of the Year.
"The Wii has the best game this generation, Super Mario Galaxy - therefore, it has the best library of games."
This is the most aggravating statement here at SystemWars, when the Wii fans tout their Super Mario Galaxy but don't realize that the rest of their library is dismal at best, save a very few titles. After all, most forget now that Gears of War for the Xbox 360 won game of the year last year - does that mean it's the greatest game of all time? Of course not. Super Mario Galaxy is a great, unique title for the Nintendo Wii and I'm glad, yes, glad that the Wii actually has a game with such high quality. Here is my analogy Wii fans:
There's two charts - chart Halo, and chart Mario.
(The following scores were randomnly put it for example purposes only)

As you can see, chart one with Mario has the only perfect score, however, which chart has the better overall grade - chart Halo. Same situation when compared to Nintendo's library, and the Xbox 360's library or any other system. Unfortunately, the laws of human nature and, well, the nature of fanboys here is to disregard that undisputable fact and fall back to other means, as I would call the "Chewbacca Defense" (A bunch of senseless arguments).
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UPDATE(3) - Nintendo is playing you like puppets:
PullTheTricker brought this to my attention which, believe it or not, I never actually thought of it until now but even now that I think about it, the more clearer my thoughts have become about Nintendo. How their hype and image is spreading - spreading so quick - spreading like a wild fire, like a virus. Nintendo is playing people like puppets, pushing them and moving them in the direction they want. As a business, with a sucessful pruduct - you will increase production to meet demand; however, when demand is still not met, you immediately invest and build a new production factory to increase supply to account for the demand and keep up with it. The fact that it's still to this day hard to grab a Wii console shows how Nintendo is playing the "shortage" excuse to keep the hype and keep them from lowering the price of their console.
Yes, keep from lowering the price of their console. You know, I know, that the Wii is not worth 250 USD. No way, no how. There's no reason for any consumer to spend that large sum of money on a mediocre console. From the beginning, and till the end of the Wii - Nintendo will never lose any amount of money sold from a Wii. They sold at a profit from the beginning, where as Microsoft and Sony both sold at a loss. Over time, manufactoring costs, supplies all depreciate, in which costs will become much lower over time. I can't even imagine how much money Nintendo is making off each Wii sold. Because Nintendo is keeping the shortage going, they will have no reason to lower the price of their console. And why would they if their product sells only off image and hype? "Oh my word, a Wii - I've never seen one before, let's get it!"
Who's the greedy company again? Let me spell it out for you. N.I.N.T.E.N.D.O. But hey, it's business.
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UPDATE(4): Gotta love Wii Fit - Truly for gamers.
Found some Wii fit ads in my Sunday Newspaper, I just love the marketing. It's just so aimed at gamers - check it out guys, go play some Wii Fit - game of the year! ![]()

Gotta' love who's using that Wii Fit there. I'm telling you folks, I guess we should lay down our controllers and bow down to the new gamer.

Gotta love the woman; the weird guy acting like he's going to hit someone and then the old man. Hey, that girl is in this picture as well. Like I said before, we shall lay before the new gamer. Congratulations Nintendo for giving us the best console of all time directly solely at us... the "gamers".

The mom's expression is priceless, the kid's expression is priceless... this picture ... ugh, I'm done.

Go Nintendo... ![]()
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End of Part 1I decided to make a blog, so whenever I see something rather amusing or downright absurb in SystemWars, or if I want to save something for future ownage, it'll get posted here. ![]()
-----QUOTES-----
| Dualshockin wrote: |
| Halo 3 will sell 6.3 million units when it's all said and done,nothing more. |
| HarlockJC wrote: |
| So it took 2 years for XBox's greats games to sell less than what a game based on cute dogs did in less than one or Mario did in 8 months. And in fact need a port to help boast it sell has much has NSMB. Man your right they are going to get to that 10 million Halo 3 games in a hurry. |
| Meu2k7 wrote: |
| Lol at overestimating Halo 3.0 "Introducing to new items zomg!" |
| yo_foo wrote: |
| Resistance is the Halo killer for this generation of gaming. No doubt about it. |
| City Councilman Peter Vallone who chairs the Councils Public Safety Committee wrote: |
"Setting Grand Theft Auto in the safest big city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland." Link |
| dante1972 wrote: |
| Halo is going to walk into KillZone 2 and get destroyed. |
| IronMaidenLives wrote: |
| Metroid Prime 3 will own Halo 3 MP3 will recieve an overall higher score. |
| Herbs84 wrote: |
| smg will outsell halo 3 |
| ng1234 wrote: |
| 360 has a fail library |
| thrones wrote: |
| They're playing a video game, so they're gamers. |
| EstralS wrote: |
| In other words, people that have completed al of their education choose PS3 ove 360. |
| nintendo4ever25 wrote: |
the only reason why the 360 is even in the videogame world is because of three games bioshock, gears of war, and Halo |
| DaBrainz wrote: |
| No the Wii is not equal, it's superior. |
| mjarantilla wrote: |
Halo 3, a consolized, kiddified version of Zoo Tycoon |
| Zhengi wrote: |
| The Wii has definitely won. The only ones losing are those who don't own a Wii. |
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