Monday, May 5, 2008
It's obvious that some assclowns on the staff don't want me here so I'm retiring from all my guides with the exception of The Untouchables, Perry Mason, Daniel Boone, Dukes of Hazzard, and Maverick. I'll still check in and process submissions for those guides because I've put a huge amount of time into them but I won't make anymore subs nor will I try to become editor for anymore guides. It's been fun but now I suppose it's time to leave. You can thank the staff. They've finally done it.
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Posted May 5, 2008 11:21 am PT
Is it anything in particular that has made you come to this conclusion? Take care on your future endevours.
Posted May 5, 2008 11:53 am PT
Wow, you certainly took the actions. Must be something pretty bad.
Posted May 5, 2008 12:41 pm PT
Really sorry and sad to hear that Mad_Buck.
I too, think you have been a HUGE asset to the site and your information invaluable. A true die-hard Untouchable fan.
Posted May 5, 2008 12:44 pm PT
What did they do this time? It's a tragedy. I'm so sorry things got to this point.
Posted May 5, 2008 1:50 pm PT
It's a major shame, you've obviously put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into the site since you joined. You'll be a big loss if you decide to go completely...
Posted May 5, 2008 2:04 pm PT
Folks, I'll still be around but like danb just said, I'm not putting anymore of my blood, sweat, and tears into this site. It's just not worth it. Maybe my problem was that I cared too damn much about my guides and the work I did on them. So thanks to all who have responded. I have met some fine people here at TV.com and this is one of the reasons I shall continue here (albeit in a very limited capacity).
Posted May 5, 2008 3:22 pm PT
Ugh, sounds bad. If there's anything we can do let us know.
Posted May 5, 2008 3:22 pm PT
Not good. I know you have been unhappy with many of the difficulties encountered on the site, and one assumes that you have taken this extreme action after another run-in with the community staff. (You seemed quite upbeat just last month.) You know I've felt that way myself. Sometimes developments on site seem calculated to offend those whose only motivation for spending huge amounts of unpaid time and effort on here is a commitment to creating a useful information resouce.
I am really sorry to see you dump these editorships. We have lost too many good people over the past three years, and experience suggests that you are now committed to a path that will see you abandon the remaining editorships, and the site, in short order. That prospect saddens me, and I do hope you stick around, even if you stop making submissions. You are greatly respected. You have always been a maverick voice, and your kind words have helped bolster me on many occasions.
Best wishes.
I am really sorry to see you dump these editorships. We have lost too many good people over the past three years, and experience suggests that you are now committed to a path that will see you abandon the remaining editorships, and the site, in short order. That prospect saddens me, and I do hope you stick around, even if you stop making submissions. You are greatly respected. You have always been a maverick voice, and your kind words have helped bolster me on many occasions.
Best wishes.
Posted May 5, 2008 5:04 pm PT
I'm sorry it's come to this point. Don't be a stranger.
Posted May 5, 2008 5:15 pm PT
I'm always sad to see someone become so frustrated that they leave. I'm even more depressed to see a quality editor leave. And, finally, I'm even more sad to see someone who's interested in television history give up. This site needs more people interested in television's past, not less.
Posted May 5, 2008 5:38 pm PT
I should say that your work is going to be missed.
When you look at TV in the US in the 50s, you see game shows, comedies (not all of which were as good as remembered), soapish serials, and westerns that were very B-movie kid oriented. The best of the era were the variety shows and the anthology dramas. And from the anthology dramas emerged the noir crime dramas like "The Untouchables", "The Naked City", "The Lawless Years", "Cain's Hundred" and others at the end of the decade/beginning of the next. Making drama into weekly installments isn't easy, and usually means leaving out as much as you put in. All American TV improved (including westerns) because of them.
So, even if the programs you no longer edit are scooped up by someone, they won't be the same. You are one of the few here who actually spent your own time and money grabbing private VCR tapes and DVDs of long-gone shows just to add more info.
When you look at TV in the US in the 50s, you see game shows, comedies (not all of which were as good as remembered), soapish serials, and westerns that were very B-movie kid oriented. The best of the era were the variety shows and the anthology dramas. And from the anthology dramas emerged the noir crime dramas like "The Untouchables", "The Naked City", "The Lawless Years", "Cain's Hundred" and others at the end of the decade/beginning of the next. Making drama into weekly installments isn't easy, and usually means leaving out as much as you put in. All American TV improved (including westerns) because of them.
So, even if the programs you no longer edit are scooped up by someone, they won't be the same. You are one of the few here who actually spent your own time and money grabbing private VCR tapes and DVDs of long-gone shows just to add more info.
Posted May 5, 2008 6:29 pm PT
I hope you continue on with your remaining editorships. The site needs people who pay attention to details and older shows. Although I'm not personally familiar with most of those shows from the 50s and 60s, many of the TV.com regulars have been impressed with your work on the guides.
I hope you aren't going to move over to one of the other TV sites. Frankly, I've seen a lot of nonsense on the forums and blogs of one of those other sites, including a publicly discussed plan to attack TV.com through a denial-of-service scheme and a public threat of violence made against me personally (with my user name displayed in bold letters). Most of the forums and guides on that site get very little traffic according to Alexa.com, so I would think seriously before devoting a lot of time to building up any guides over there. While the fan community for TV shows from the 40s, 50s and 60s is small on TV.com, it's probably about 5% of that total on the other site.
I hope you aren't going to move over to one of the other TV sites. Frankly, I've seen a lot of nonsense on the forums and blogs of one of those other sites, including a publicly discussed plan to attack TV.com through a denial-of-service scheme and a public threat of violence made against me personally (with my user name displayed in bold letters). Most of the forums and guides on that site get very little traffic according to Alexa.com, so I would think seriously before devoting a lot of time to building up any guides over there. While the fan community for TV shows from the 40s, 50s and 60s is small on TV.com, it's probably about 5% of that total on the other site.
Posted May 5, 2008 6:44 pm PT
It's very frustrating when a dedicated editor leaves. I hope you stay and don't give up. I think everyone who contributes goes through these phases on this site.
Posted May 5, 2008 10:37 pm PT
Wow, that's really bad news. I've been in the same position a few times too, but for some reason I've decided to stay. However, every month there's a new thing to be worried about on this site.
Posted May 6, 2008 3:59 am PT
Damn.
Posted May 6, 2008 7:21 am PT
Even though you and I have had our differences in the past, that doesn't change the fact that you are a damned fine editor, one of the best here, and your absence will be truly felt and missed at Tv.com. Sorry you felt the way you did but it's totally understandable. The best to you!
Posted May 9, 2008 9:48 am PT
I'll just say that the Perry Mason guide is one of the best on the site. Take care.
Posted Jun 24, 2008 5:55 pm PT
How did the mods push you out? The mods used to HATE me but they seem to like me now. I'm sorry to see you go. Which guides did you retire from?
Posted Jun 28, 2008 9:11 am PT
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