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Saturday, Jul 14, 2007

Let me explain and then I've got some ranting to do...

I noticed Circuit City was running a deal where you could get a 60G PS3, 5 free Blu-ray movies by mail in, and an extra PS3 Sixaxis controller for $499. Effectively making the PS3 around $359 if you take into consideration the cost of the movies and the controller. Not a bad deal at all, but still a sizable chunk of change I wasn't really planning to use on a PS3 right now.

Here's where I start feeling dirty: I bought Motorstorm and Resistance and downloaded the Ninja Gaiden: Sigma demo. All good games, but I didn't feel any real "wow" factor from them. To be fair, I didn't feel any "wow" when I first fired up the 360 eitherso I guess I should stop expecting that. Regardless, they were good looking and pretty fun. As I looked through the PlayStation store and looked at the upcoming release list, I couldn't help but feel Sony shammed me.

Let me back up, I had no intention of buying a PS3 until a substantial price drop and more must-have games hit shelves. The reason I jumped so early, besides being a good deal, was the news that not only are they phasing the 60 gigger out, the replacement 80 gigger has incomplete backwards compatibility. It's still at 88% or thereabouts, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the 30 or so Xbox games I own but still can't play on the 360, and I want to get all of my old PS2 games working on the new system.

So I feel shammed basically because they enticed me to buy before I was intending to, and because they pull a price drop followed by a discontinuation and effective downgrade in future versions of the hardware. Oh and yeah... I know you can purchase HDMI cables online on the cheap, but in retail stores, the cheapest I could find was a $40 cable that was 3 feet. Which is about as long as the charging cable they put in the box for the Sixaxis, making charging while playing it worthless unless you want to sit around 2 feet from the TV.

And another thing, why can't I play Resistance in 1080i?? My largest and oldest HDTV only supports 480 and 1080i. When I fired up Resistance, it told me the optimal resolution for that game is 720p. Since that set doesn't do 720p, I went ahead and played anyway at the settings I had made in the console settings. After thinking to myself "These graphics really aren't very good," I checked the resolution on the TV, and sure enough it had set me at 480.So in order to play my PS3 games I have to go into the bedroom and play on a 26" LCD that does 720p. Grrr... it does look great in 720p but it's on a screen half the size I am used to gaming on. (UPDATE) Apparently most of the games out right now for the PS3 won't display in 1080i... So far only Sigma has ran at 1080, and of course the Dashboard/Media Crossbar does too. Yay.

And criminy this sucker's heavy and puts out a boatload of heat! Thankfully the fan is substantially quieter than the 360's fan, but it does get hot regardless.

Oh and what is going on with loading times and installations? Does every game have to install on the HDD before it's playable? I thought that was the point of console gaming, that you can just pop a disc in and go... apparently times are changing.

*sigh* I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I guess I just was expecting all of the fanboy rants I hear in System Wars daily to be exaggerations, which some are and others are right on the mark.

Those things being said, I am optimistic about the future of the PS3 and the games it will have within the next few months and years. Heavenly Sword looks great, and now I don't have to wait to play Haze. Little Big Planet looks interesting as does Infamous and Uncharted but please don't mention MGS4... I am evidently the only person on the planet who can't stand the MGS series. It's a long story.

In addition to gaming, I have a one year old son and old Disney movies in HD is a nice bonus. (XBL only gets the new ones) However, I couldn't locate any of the old Disney BR discs at any local retailer... Have they just not been released yet on BR?

So yeah, I'm sure I'll have more positive things to say in the future, but I had to get this out for the time being. I feel they are valid complaints especially for a high end piece of hardware. But many will likely shout "teh bias Mod!!!"and that's fine. People who really know me know what kind of person I am... and that's good enough for me.

Posted by JakeT, 9:32pm
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The Disney movies haven't been released on BR, as far as I know. Took a little while to get them onto DVD too, if you remember: they did those crazy "Special edition and now it's going into the vault forever until the next format!" promos for them.

I have a question, though: what kind of memory footprint are those games leaving on your HD? You mentioned some kind of installation process... I'm thinking about getting one too, and I'm wondering if I should make sure I have extra scratch for a bigger laptop HD to stick in it.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 8:22 am PT
woah thats awesome! Was the circuit city deal in store or online? Also about disney movies i think xbox 360 made a deal with them for exclusivity for this year i think.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 8:28 am PT
I will never consider buying one untill rumble comes in the controller. Congratulations on your purchase none the less.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 8:30 am PT
SOTE:

I ordered it online, and then picked it up at a local CC store.

Ellipson:

Fairly large, I haven't checked exact sizes yet, but after playing 2 games and two demos, my HDD size is at 46GB.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 8:33 am PT
Congrats on your purchase...Have fun....
Posted Jul 16, 2007 8:36 am PT
Congrats on the Purchase and welcome to the light.

A thing I wanted to point out below:

You Wrote: "Oh and what is going on with loading times and installations? Does every game have to install on the HDD before it's playable? I thought that was the point of console gaming, that you can just pop a disc in and go... apparently times are changing."

You don't have to install the game, you can just pop it in and play.

Your Wrote: "And another thing, why can't I play Resistance in 1080i?? My largest and oldest HDTV only supports 480 and 1080i. "

Don't worry, I believe Sony is working on it thru firmware updates. Give it some time.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 8:59 am PT
good for you
Posted Jul 16, 2007 9:20 am PT
FYI, using a non-sony branded HDMI cable with your PS3 voids it's warranty. So, if tech support asks, assure them that you bought one of their $80 cables.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 10:36 am PT
I'm in the same frame of mind as you were, although my situation is a tad more complicated. Us unfortunate souls who live in Euroland won't be getting a price drop, and won't be getting the 80GB version. I was going to wait it out until I heard of the removal of the Emotion chip, which is something I desperately want in my PS3.

Anyway, I can wait for the "value" pack (€630 isn't exactly what I'd call value, no matter what the pack contains), or import a 60GB version from Canada for €390. If I were to put Resistance, Motorstorm and an extra controller into the mix, I'd still be saving money over the "value pack". Having an American PS3 would also help a lot as PAL PS2 games are expensive and hard to find these days, Region 2 DVDs are too expensive, Blu Ray movies are too expensive, and PS3 games are region free.

Given your stance on backwards compatibility and positive outlook on the future releases, I think you made the right move in buying one now. Congrats on the purchase.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 11:30 am PT
I wouldnt bank on blu ray if I was you. xbox 360 gets a lot of old movies and has a lot of the old disneys on right now. disney hasnt released in blu ray becasue they still arent sure about the format (same thing with fox). Monoprice.com is the best place to get cables. Price doesnt equal quality when your talking about cables. The 80 gig will be 500 this holoiday adn to get the 5 free blu rays you have to cut out the upc from the box of the ps3 making returning it an almost impossibility and then you have to wait 8-10 weeks. and all the movies in there selection suck. If you want good hd movies look into the hd dvd player for the 360.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 11:44 am PT
genfuyung

I'm not planning on returning it, so the UPC isn't a big deal. Plus I already have the HDDVD player for the 360 and about 7 HDDVD movies plus the ones I have watched thru XBL.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 12:00 pm PT
I feal the same way sometimes. But hey you got a better deal than me at $599. Plus it's worth it just for the Blu-ray and movies. Lot of decent games coming this year (finally). Plus you still have your 360 for now to hold you over.
Posted Jul 16, 2007 5:59 pm PT
good buy have u played resistance online yet?
Posted Jul 16, 2007 7:36 pm PT
i hope you enjoy it. get super stardust hd btw.
Posted Jul 17, 2007 5:50 pm PT
don't blame sony for your old tv. anyways congrats on your purchase. you should get R6V and GRAW 2 if you don't have them already. you'll be glad you got a ps3 once the holiday season comes. And even more glad when you see that there's no specials in PS3 hardware when the good games come out.
Posted Jul 17, 2007 6:10 pm PT
I don't blame Sony for my HDTV (it's only two years old by the way) I blame them with not having the foresight to realize their machine can't display optimally on all available televisions. Sony is a hardware company after all... There. Is. No. Valid. Excuse.

It's just poor planning and cost cutting. You can't explain this flaw away, try as you might.
Posted Jul 17, 2007 7:34 pm PT
well you should have done a little more research before buying it, that resolution problem has been known and debated on in SW for the longest time.

and as far as disney not being sure on which format, im pretty sure disney is part of blu ray and has shares and is backing it. just because they havent released snow white or something doesnt mean they are leaving the format, pirates 1 and 2 already came out and 3 will this fall.fox has always backed hd dvd i believe. but blu ray will kill hd dvd, its the sad truth. blockbuster already chose sides, and most movie studios did as well, and not to mention the biggest most profitable movie studio on the planet right now which is sony.

new formats dont blow out of the gate, when people realise that they can only rent blu ray movies at blockbuster(dont give me that online rental rant cus all those companies combined dont pull what BB does) and they get their shiny new HDTVs for christmas or for the football season starting soon(sony tvs sell well too, i can see what they meant when they said they wanna be in our livingrooms, they are making everything now) the blu ray players will sell more and become mass produced and as cheap as dvd players to make.
Posted Jul 23, 2007 6:38 pm PT
I feel your pain, I think I was far to wrapped up in the "hype" surrounding the PS3 to actually make sure that much of it was true. For months all I heard about was the wonders of 1080p and the PS3 and then quickly realized the more games I bought for the PS3 the more angry I got that most of them supported 720p as the high end setting.
Posted Nov 7, 2007 12:15 pm PT
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