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Friday, Oct 5, 2007
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If I were to ever find a document containing Sony's official procedure for making announcements I think I'd find something relatively similar to the title of this article written on it. To any ravenous Sony fanboys that are already primed to leave a negative comment without even having read the rest of the article, go over to my collection page for a second. Go ahead, I'll wait right here. Did you see the Playstation 3 and PSP games in there? Yeah, I own both, so don't go flaming me for being an Xbot or...whatever asinine term you use for Nintendo fans.

It goes without saying that everyone looking forward to the PS3 was taken aback when Kaz Hirai dropped the "599 US dollars" bomb on us back at E3 2006 (cue Lex Luthor). Six hundred dollars was an absolutely absurd price and even though a lot of us (myself included) paid it at launch we did it begrudgingly. Analysts and everyone else kept calling for a price cut on the PS3. They all said that $600 was too high and that in order to compete and create a larger install-base Sony would have to cut the price at some point. Naturally everyone was excited when Sony announced that the price of the 60 GB PS3 was dropping from $600 to $500. That was still $100 more than the high-end Xbox 360 but hey, $100 is $100. As was expected, interest in the machine increased and a huge sales spike followed. Sony had seemingly done something right. Then we all find out that what we thought was a price cut was really a liquidation sale. Sony made the announcement that production had ceased on the 60 GB and that when they were gone they would be replaced by a new 80 GB that cost...599 US dollars. Did I mention that the hardware emulation had been replaced with extremely sub-par software emulation?

Like its giant obelisk console counterpart, the PSP hasn't been the easiest sell either. In both the United States and Japan the system was consistently outsold by the DS Lite, typically by a wide margin. Sony figured that, hey, if Nintendo can release a remodeled system, so can they. Thus at E3 2007 the world was introduced to the PSP-2000, colloquially known as the PSP Slim. The announcement was great for Sony as they unveiled a system that offered numerous improvements, the best two being improved battery life and shorter load times (the two things most decried on the original PSP). Well, the load time improvement remains, at least for newer titles. However, the battery life improvement wasn't as advertised. Sony explained that the PSP-2000 would indeed have longer battery life...if you were using the PSP-1000's battery...huh? Even if you weren't like me and didn't trade in the original PSP toward the new PSP thus leaving yourself without a PSP-1000 battery, the PSP-1000 battery was too big for the PSP-2000. So, if you actually had an original PSP battery to use it would stick out and make your system lop-sided. You'd also have to order a special battery cover from Sony in order to cover it. Lastly, this is probably just me being upset over not paying attention, but Sony also announced a video out feature that would allow PSP owners to play PSP games on their TV. However, you have to have a progressive-scan TV for this to work. This means that SD television owners (the majority of TV owners) cannot make use of this feature but hey, at least we can watch UMD movies on our TVs. Yeah, as if most people own any.

I don't think this next one counts as announcing good news and then messing it up so much as it counts as Sony throwing salt in gamers' wounds. Lair was a game that almost everyone who owned a PS3 was looking forward to. It was an aerial dragon combat game from the makers of Rogue Squadron and it looked amazing. Now, I've never played Lair but general consensus claims that the game's controls are more or less broken. However, that's not the point. Despite not announcing anything good, Sony proceeded to step 2 anyway and sent out a reviewer's guide for Lair. Yes, it wasn't that Lair was a bad game, it was just that every professional reviewer in the industry, you know, people who play games for a living, wasn't playing the game correctly. Wow.

Though I could personally care less, most gamers were upset by the fact that the PS3 controllers would lack any kind of force feedback. Sony told a couple of different lies as to why this was. They told us that the tilt-sensor wouldn't operate properly with rumble weights and they told us rumble was a last-gen feature that wasn't important anymore. However, we all knew that they just didn't want to pay up to Immersion. Well, Sony eventually did pay their settlement to Immersion and the rumble-capable PS3 controller rumors started flying. Sure enough, one of Sony's big announcements at the Tokyo Game Show was the DualShock 3, the Sixaxis with rumble weights they had previously told us was impossible. Now I'm sure you must be thinking, "What's the black lining on that silver cloud?" Well, North America and Europe aren't getting these controllers until Spring 2008, whereas Japan gets them next month. There's no logical reason why Sony would be doing this. Accessories are not games; they do not have region codes and they do not need to be localized. You could import a Japanese DualShock 3 from Japan next month and it would work with your non-Japanese PS3 (unless Sony devises some stupid way to region lock accessories). I understand that these things have to be manufactured and shipped, but if they have enough of them to launch the controller in Japan next month it shouldn't take them six months to get a launch supply for North America and Europe manufactured.

After the whole liquidation sale debacle, gamers everywhere have been waiting for a real price drop for the PS3. Recently, rumors have been circulating that Sony would be announcing a 40 GB PS3 and, at least in Europe, they have. The system, as stated, only has a 40 GB hard drive, it only has two USB ports instead of four, and it no longer has the card readers. That's not so bad right? It also has no PS2 backward compatibility. Yes, you read that correctly. I don't mean that it just doesn't have the Emotion Engine, I mean it has nothing. You put a PS2 disc into that system and it will have no idea what it is. Sony's hilarious reason for this? They claim that few people really use it and that it isn't a feature most people look for when buying a PS3. Ha, ha, and indeed ha. Do they even have any idea what gamers think of their system? Did they not hear the ire of European gamers when they launched the PS3 with its shoddy software backward compatibility? Did they not notice how many people were scrambling to get a 60 GB when it was announced that the 80 GB wouldn't have the Emotion Engine? Sony knows that the PS2 had the greatest and largest library the last generation but they claim that they don't need to rely on that library anymore because the PS3 is going to have a whopping 65 game available by this holiday season. Wow, 65 whole games? So how many of those are licensed titles, available on other systems, or just bad? Never mind the fact that PS2 games are still being made. Granted, Sony doesn't have the Wii advantage here. A lot of people skipped the Gamecube so the Wii being able to play the whole Gamecube library was a selling point. Odds are anyone interested in the PS3 is probably one of the 100 million PS2 owners out there. Still, there's nothing quite like buying a brand new, super powerful system and having to leave it's predecessor hooked up so you can play its superior game library, right?

Looking at their track record I don't think it's any surprise to anyone that Sony is in last right now. They started with two high priced systems, announced pseudo-price drops and have released way too many iterations of a console that's less than a year old. On top of that, it seems that everytime they announce something that makes gamers feel better about them they jab us with a cattle prod as soon as we turn around. At least we still have Final Fantasy and Metal Gear, right?

Comment Response 1: staley6565: So you read all of the "walls of text" and couldn't find a point anywhere, huh? Did you try reading the title and the first paragraph? I'm going to assume you didn't less you wouldn't be complaining about my lack of a point. My point is simply that Sony's PR has been terrible this generation (which, if you notice in the comments, other readers were able to infer that). Everytime they announce something that sounds like good news they immediately follow it up with something bad or something that takes away from that news. As for my "simple history of things", those are what most people like to call support. You know, making a claim and backing it up with examples and facts instead of just spouting of baseless nonsense?

Secondly, you claim that lack of backward compatibility is not a big deal if you already own a PS2. Have you considered things like clutter or lack of inputs? For example, my TV has three inputs in the back, and one is taken up by my DVD player. That leaves me with two open inputs and given that I have 7 systems that need them, I have switch boxes connected into them. Fortunately, when I got my PS3 I was able to simply replace my PS2 with it. Had I not been able to do this all of my slots would have been full and if I ever had the need to install something else it would have come down to swapping cords. A minor annoyance, but an annoyance avoided by my backward compatible PS3. That's not even taking into consideration the amount of electrical outlets I need. Secondly, there's the issue of shelf space. Using myself as an example again, I have six spaces for my seven systems. As it is my Dreamcast has to rest on top of my Xbox so everything fits (though with your ideas on money you'd probably just recommend that I buy a bigger house, more on that in a second). Then you proceed to put words in my mouth, claiming that if Sony didn't release the absurd number of SKUs that they do that I'd be complaining about them forcing us to buy things. Let me start off by saying that I've never complained about Sony forcing anything on me. I didn't complain about it in this article and I've never complained about it elsewhere. In fact, and I'm not alone here, I hate the multiple SKU system so many seem to be embracing. I'm sure most remember back when systems came out and they only came out in one version. If you went to a store and asked for that system you got a system that was the same as every other one.

Not to mention the fact that software emulation would not bring up the price of manufacturing the hardware. Also, just last year Sony was calling bacwkards compatability a core value that was vital to their brand.

You end on a note that is just ignorant, claiming that $600 is not a lot of money in "the real working world." Wow. I'm not sure going to college and working part time in a grocery store counts as this "real working world" that you refer to, but I'll use myself as an example once again. I make roughly $150 a week working the hours that I can. Every week I deposit half of that toward my tuition and take out 25 for gas money. Then I pay $100 for my car insurance bill at the end of every month. This means that every month I make around 150-200 dollars that I don't have to spend on bills (so that's 3 months for me to earn "not a lot of money"), and I don't have anywhere near the amount of bills people in the real world have. Yeah, maybe you have a high paying job that allows you to drop $600 on a luxury and not even bat an eye, but saying that $600 isn't a lot of money just makes you sound like a pompous fool.

Comment Response 2: Charlie2688: Holy crap man.You do realize people are going to read the comments you post right? Grammar and mechanics are your friends. Using the right words might help too (hint: accent is not synonymous with accept). You start out by saying that I'm acting like Sony has wronged me personally...yeah, whatever. Then you tell me that articles like mine are the reason that people have a negative attitude toward the PS3 and can't explain why. What do you think all that text up there is? Oh look, it's me explaining why Sony has such a negative image right now. I'm also curious as to when exactly I bashed the PS3. As far as I can tell I was pointing out flaws in Sony's marketing department the whole time.

You then claim that everyone has forgiven Microsoft's problems. This is something you do throughout your entire comment. You're trying to attack me and yet you lump me in with every Sony hating fanboy out there. Anyway, it's called being relevant and being inspired to write something. The height of the 360's Red Ring issue was over the summer when the warranty program went into effect. Why would I write about something that saw the height of its news coverage months ago? Sony just announced their new, non-backward compatible PS3 yesterday and that news inspired me to write this. Trust me, everyone hasn't forgiven Microsoft. Hell, there are people out there who haven't even played Halo 3 yet because they're waiting for their consoles to be repaired.

You tell me to look at some of the brilliant comments (a category which your comment does not fall under) here on GameSpot about backward compatibility. So people screamed when Sony focused on backward compatibility and people screamed when they stopped focusing on it? Here's a crazy thought, do you think that maybe those were different people screaming both times? Obviously if you have no interest in the PS3's library you're not going to buy one just to play your old PS2 games. However, if you're like me and are interested in the PS3 but also have over 100 PS1 and PS2 games with limited system space then backward compatibility is obviously important to you. Plus, the backward compatibility issue is another example of Sony directly contradicting themselves as they are so apt to do.

You follow that up by telling me to accept (or accent, as you put it) the fact that I'll never be happy with what Sony does. Again, lumping me in with the Sony haters. If you notice I actually own a PS3 (something, based on your collection page, you can't say I might add) and yeah, I have some problems with it but not because of Sony's PR tactics. Why would I have a problem with the console because of Sony's business practices? You go on to follow step 2 of Sony's announcement procedure and completely contradict yourself. You accuse me of forgiving Microsoft for all their flaws and then go on to say that Sony's negative image isn't their fault its the fault of all the people complaining about the PS3. Why do you think people are complaining about the PS3?! Oh wait, it's because it's cool to hate Sony, right? It has nothing to do with any of the mistakes they've made so far this generation? Also, the reason you don't hear people complain about the 360 as much is because the Red Ring of Death is the only major thing people tend to complain about and Microsoft has taken steps to correct it. They spent 1.7 billion dollars to give every 360 owner a three year warranty and they just started releasing new systems that have all of the cooling components they should have had since day one. Sony even has Microsoft beat in this department! They have a better built and more powerful system than Microsoft does. The only reason they attract negative press is because they keep lying to us and contradicting themselves.

Lastly you speak of Lair and I'm not sure you read that paragraph right. You say people like to knock it without having even played it and that wasn't even what I was talking about. I talked about the ridiculous assertion that Sony made claiming that reviewers had all reviewed the game wrong. Here's a math tip for you. You claim that if so many people played Lair at a friend's house that it would be number one in sales. Other than the obvious fact that it wasn't, if all those people played it at a friend's house that means they didn't buy it.

You conclude your rebuttal by saying that blogs like mine will never help change Sony's negative image. You know what will? If Sony stops pulling crap like I've described above.

Bloody hell.
Category: Editorial
Posted by Hiroki_30303, 7:49pm
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I agree, and I want to add something. I think gamers are being very patient with Killzone 2 and MGS4. It seems like forever we've been waiting for these games. Microsoft has already launched all of their AAA titles and then some.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 8:46 pm PT
Thank you! This is what I've been trying to tell people for a very long time. It's not that there's, per-se anything inferior or wrong with the PS3 itself, it's a great piece of hardware; Sony's marketing decisions have just been crap. Very nice article.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 8:49 pm PT
well said Hiroki...I am an onwer of ps3 as well but i agree with you. Hopefully we can blame it on the last CEO and hope this new guy will pull thru. Also one more thing to add. let us not forget the now expected delays of released products coming out of Sony. The Ps3 originally Nov---delayed till spring, HOME supposed to be Nov---now spring---starting to see a trend here
Posted Oct 5, 2007 9:10 pm PT
It really is embarassing how poorly Sony is handling the PS3. I've always been a PS fan but that has changed. I hate Microsoft but I must admit the 360 is a superior product. I'm not spending $600 on a console that has no games. Maybe if they had a lot of exclusive games I'd think about it but they don't. Final Fantasy is the only reason I'd consider getting a PS3 but the franchise is getting stale IMO.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 9:15 pm PT
It's sad and terrible...and all true. But since I'm already a Wii owner and I can't see myself going anywhere near 360, I patiently wait for Sony to get things right (and for my finances to allow me to get one). I'm still upset about the loss of PS2 hardware emulation though. I broke two PS2s before I could finish FFXII and I figured there was no point buying another PS2 with the PS3 out...except I took too long.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 9:22 pm PT
Your points are well-made. While I've never been a big fan of Sony, I believe they could've had something with the PS3, but instead have run around in circles trying to make their system look appealing, and failed. What you didn't mention (unless I'm mistaken, which I may be, so please correct me if I'm wrong) is that Sony is also throwing the achievements straight out of the 360 games into their own. I'm all for competition; it's what drives companies to make better games, and thus, we win as gamers. However, as of late, I can't really think of anything outstanding Sony has done that isn't some sort of emulation of another system's features.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 9:58 pm PT
the fact that they are continually making new SKU's kinda feel like they are just experementing on which type consumers are willing to buy. I already have a 360 when i bought the ps3 at launch, and unfortunately, i have to say that i am very dissatisfied with how we as the first customers to support the console are treated. not only are there no enough great games on the system, we also have to buy new controllers to get something that was supposed to come right off the bat. I'm not without complaints with the 360 (m$ makes poor hardware really), but as far as I am concerned, the ps3 is just performing so poorly that its embarassing
Posted Oct 5, 2007 11:22 pm PT
Im used to it Before there was a xbox or xbox 360 , Console gaming came mostly from japan for years and they always got everything first and alot of things never made it here. So they are actually improving over time slowly. Now that they have serious competition thanks to MS. PS2 launch had a longer game drought then PS3 imo and less of a presence online , and there were promises that never came to fruition. PS3 is catching up. The quality of the ps3s components and build is second to no console. Only fanboys could deny that. Ive seen all the consoles cracked open and ps3 is solid. Im on my 3rd 360 due to 2 previous ones scratching discs. Even gamespot editors 360s have bit the dust. As well as red ringed 360s in display cases in retail stores ... My ps3 hasnt failed yet. Neither has my wii.

The lack of PS2 BC could be added later in a firmware update probably. They got a good price drop in there you cant have your cake and eat it to. If BC is so important you would trade in your ps2 and theres aprox. your extra dough for a 60 gb sku.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 11:35 pm PT
I would agree with you, but you get what you pay for. People wanted a lower priced PS3 and sony is giving it to them. This is a situation of people simply whining for no general reason. I mean the price of the system dropped $200 within less than a year and people expect it to have all the same features? Please. I mean, I could understand if they completely removed backwards compatibility from all models, but that isn't the case.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 11:37 pm PT
I read this thinking that the walls of text would eventually lead to you making a point, but when I was finished I realized there wasn't one. I can't even really disagree with you because you didn't really say anything other than a simple history of things that happened so recently, we had no need to be reminded of them.

One thing I can pick at is - the 40gb not having PS2 playability is not a big deal. Why? well if you're one of the endless numbers of people who already has a PS2, and wants to spend less on a PS3, then what is the problem? If Sony just left the 80gb on the market alone without anything else, you'd still be complaining that they're forcing consumers to buy their proprietary features blah blah blah.

And sorry, 600 dollars is just not a lot of money. Sure it'll keep the average 12 year old from biking to a store and using his allowance on it, but for the rest of us in the real working world, not a big deal.
Posted Oct 5, 2007 11:55 pm PT
Sony gives us choices and I think it's a good thing. I mean, you don't buy a PS3 to play PS2 games on, right? If the 40gb modell was announced in NA and Japan too, then the sales would be interesting to say the least.
And let's be honest, As long as MGS,FF and God of War are on PS3 every hardcore gamer will buy it.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 12:34 am PT
I agree, except on a minor point - i think the psp slim has longer battery life with its normal battery, too. Not twice as long, as sony claimed, but still longer. Ive left it playing music for a good 8 - 10 hours, which my old psp couldnt do.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 12:58 am PT
see, all the reasons in this article is why i'm hesitant about buying a ps3...but i''l wait for mgs4 to change my mind
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:23 am PT
Good article!

The last console I owned before this generation was an N64, so I was completely unbiased as to which console I was going to get. I was initially heading towards PS3 until Sony unleashed the full force of their marketing "skills". At that point I considered pre-ordering a 360.

The inclusion of compulsory blu-ray, to me, sounds like Sony saw how big their PS2 fanbase was and realised they could guarantee a win for blu-ray in the movie industry if they could convince those 100 million to upgrade to a PS3, thus making them enormous profits in the long run. After all, who would bother to buy an HD-DVD player if their PS3 already has blu-ray?

The reason I think this is that their marketing strategy has always been about the system itself, and not the games. All the hype was about blu-ray and the cell processor, with not enough showtime given to games. By cramming all the expensive technology into their system, Sony didn't leave enough budget for aquiring to new IPs. The result? Two decent launch titles followed by mediocre ports and letdowns.

If Sony had really cared about the PS3 as a games machine, they would have focused on building a decent library of games like Microsoft has. On my 360 I'm considering robbing a bank to pay for all the games I want to get this Autumn. On the PS3 I would, ironically, be much better off financially.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:30 am PT
Yup. All these reasons go against it no matter how you slice it. Sony has an uphill marathon race to run.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:52 am PT
Great Blog entry there.

Please don't forget that Sony don't include cables or cards with any of their electronics, that was a kick in the stomach as far as I'm concerned. I was so happy when I brought my brand new glossy PSP Slim, I couldn't wait to play Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops on my HDTV. A shame then, that the AV Cable wasn't even included in the packaging.

Oh and when I did get it, did you know you have to play the games in a letterbox format? Yes, and you can't change it.

Oh not to forget it had no memory card either, so some PSP games just didn't work.. period.

It was quite a pain that I had to invest in a memory card and an AV cable after actually buying the system just to get it to work. I felt conned. I still do. On top of all this, bare in mind European gamers have to pay almost $200 more than the Americans for the PS3, that's a whopping $800. I know the pound is stronger than the dollar, but damn, this is another case of "Rip off Europe" by Sony.

I have to admit, Sony really are failing this generation of consoles. I'm glad I didn't invest in a PS3, and I most likely never will.

My closing thought: PSP = FINGERPRINT MAGNET. Another thing I hate.

That is all.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 2:11 am PT
Nice entry. TBH i would have seriouslt considered buying the 40gb PS3 if it did read ps2 games. Last gen I made a big mistake going for the gamecube. Still it was worth the money thanks to some great game such as ToS. This gen I bought a wii and sold my Gamecube. Now I'm seriously thinking of buying a ps2 for games I couldnt play last gen such as Kingdom Heart and Final Fantasy. I guess i'll go with a ps2 instead of a ps3 given that the only game I'm interested in are RE5, MGS4, FFXIII and Assassins creed.

Still I problably wont buy anything untill mid 08 (too many wii games comming + i need to save for a trip) but if sony dosnt announce a "low" price ps3 that can read ps2 games I'll go with a ps2 and, eventually, a xbox360
Posted Oct 6, 2007 4:58 am PT
This is why I don't regret getting a 360. SOOO much better than the PS3.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 5:23 am PT
staley6565:
"And sorry, 600 dollars is just not a lot of money. Sure it'll keep the average 12 year old from biking to a store and using his allowance on it, but for the rest of us in the real working world, not a big deal."

And what about that majority of the video game market that's made up by youngsters who don't yet have jobs? What about them? Not everyone in the world has a job. Way to be conceited.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 5:27 am PT
I completely agree. I've always had a natural bias towards Sony because I grew up on the legendary Playstation. Now I have a great PC (well....great for a casual gamer...geforce 8500 great ), and now I use it for most of my gaming, but the cold hard fact is that not many games out there can for the PC can let you play with another player in the same room unless you have 2 computers. This pushes me into a corner since a great majority of my videogaming is with friends and family, meaning I require a console. Now that the PS2 games are slowly being weened off, the PS3 is the only place I can really turn to, since Nintendo is (more often than not) geared towards a younger audience, and I've never held an Xbox controller in my life and it would be harder for me to adapt. Sony better smarten up, because I think gamers are losing their patience concerning the entire situation, and might just mutineer.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 7:19 am PT
Totally agree with Hiroki_30303 and Bakahashi.

I'm waiting for GTA4 before making a decision on a 360 or PS3 (as I don't want to wait until it may arrive on the PC)... but with all the lies and strange things that have been going on with the PS3, the 360 seems to be the more likely choice...

Now, I don't have a PS2, PS1 (or Xbox, Gamecube, Wii, DC or whatever else we've got as consoles, though I do have a PSP) so backwards compatibility isn't an issue... but just the whole web of lies and changes Sony did... it just doesn't show that they actually know what they're doing!
Posted Oct 6, 2007 9:04 am PT
"600 dollars is just not a lot of money"

Where the hell do you live? Beverley Hills?
Posted Oct 6, 2007 9:48 am PT
I am just going to get a PS3 20GB that seems to have what I want .. And then buy a new 100GB hardrive off Tiger Direct. Problem solved for me.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 10:13 am PT
Regarding the Lair reviewer's guide: Reviewers guides are actually a pretty common thing, most games have them, in the same way they have manuals in the box. Lair's was a little more flashy and a little more like ad copy than most, but it's existence by itself was not an issue. The illuminating fact about the Lair reviewer's guide was that it had SIX PAGES dedicated to explaining the controls. Look through all your game manuals and see if you can find one that takes six pages to explain the controls and isn't a PC flightsim that can sit on it's own beard.

It's almost as if they KNEW controls would be a sticking point, and rather than going back and fixing them they tried to use the reviewer's guide as damage control, probably hoping for an "OK when you get used to them" verdict.

The fact that the guide arrived sufficiently after the game had already had widespread negative press was an ironic twist, and allowed further ammuniton for mockery, but wasn't a response to the bad scores, just an unfortunate outcome of the postal system. (24 page glossy booklets don't get printed overnight). Foot in mouth disease again, but by accident, rather than idiocy on this occasion.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 10:39 am PT
A bit harsh, but I think you've gotten close to Sony's woes. The machine is an excellent piece of technology (we have 8 of them w/ linux running a small computer cluster here at my University). Sony leadership has slipped a bit. I'm thinking they were hoping that the popularity of the PS2 would help push the ps3. I'm watching to see what happens when they start getting the PS only type games that MS would probably never have (Disgaea 3, etc.). Hopefully these problems can be ironed out and we can have a decent machine that is affordable and just as much fun.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 10:51 am PT
You said what I've been trying to say for a year and you've said it better than I ever could have. I do not dislike Sony to the point where I would blow up their building, hell I've bought two PSP's since its release. However, I dislike the way Sony has talked down to its loyal customers in the past 2-3 years. We pay your salary, remember that!
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:15 pm PT
Nice post man. Must v'e took you ages, i agree i just don't see a way in which the ps3 is actually good. Somebody please answer that.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:30 pm PT
I think you've put together a really good argument here. I too am a PS3 owner. Luckily, I was able to grab a 60 GB PS3 for about $400. My main grievance is the terrible library of games. If mine wasn't backwards compatible I would sell it. Another thing that makes me VERY angry, is how I traded in my Nintendo DS and 5 games to get the new PSP-2000 so I could play Final Fantasy Tactics on my tv. Bought the PSP and the chord that doesn't come with it, got home and found that I need a progressive scan tv. *sigh*
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:34 pm PT
As some people, and yourself, said above, Sony really had something going with the ps2, but lately they haven't done anything that differs too much from emulation form other companies. Look at the Sixaxis, the motion sensing it has is plain-out ridiculous, a crappy attempt to diminish the shine on the Wii's motion-controls
Posted Oct 6, 2007 1:37 pm PT
I have no clue what you are trying to do here apart from placing the all to over used cl@assical argument of someone that feel that Sony has done something personal against them the only difference is you didn't started with the "once I was a Sony fan but.." or tell us the big secret in life, dude stuff like this is why many people have such a negative predisposition for the PS3 and are NEVER able to explain why when confronted, hell just look at some of the comments you have here just more fuel to the fire, and it's not about Sony making or not mistakes we know they have the thing is all 3 companies have done it but Sony is the only one that pays for it, for example ALL of the 360 problems are forgiven only because of its install base and now Halo 3 and when people talk about the problems with the 360...its flamebait or its lies. And pleases before you try to tell us the backwards compatibility is HUGE for everyone why don't you read the brilliant comments from some of our GS pals, look for the comments under the articles about new backcompat updates or new PS1 games to the PSN, people SCREAMING at Sony that they didn't bought or are going to buy a "$600" machine to play PS2 games and that they should focus on PS3 games and now that they have done that, lower price and more PS3 games people are AGAIN screaming. just accept it you and MANY other people will NEVER be happy with what Sony does, hell when Sony was giving away free PS3 with TVs people were complaining, why because PS3 is this generation black sheep regardless of what they do or don't do and most of the work has been done by the people not Sony, just look at some of GS user blogs 12 year olds writing how much Sony "SUXS" for no reason at all other than its cool and everybody is saying it too and look at the responses it gets more people saying it sux for the sake of being IN or COOL same happened to Lair hundreds of blogs of how much is sucked and people saying "yes it suxs" and hell most of them didn't even had a PS3 or the game or said "I played it in a friend's house" hell if so many people have played it in some friends house lair will be #1 in sales . But I don't even know why I bother most of the people have already made up their minds or have people make their minds for them about how horrible Sony is, and reminder blogs like this one won't help changed that at ALL.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 3:14 pm PT
Sony has made mistakes, but the PS3 is a good system. It has free online, so don't bring up the price issue. I'm willing to bet that the 40gb gets backwards compatibility in a firmware update. Lair wasn't broken. The controls worked fine if you get used to them. It's worth pointing out that the PS3 has a better lineup of exclusives coming out.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 6:44 pm PT
well i have no idea waht those comment responses are, but the actual article is excellent, made me feel good for getting a 360 lolz
Posted Oct 6, 2007 6:51 pm PT
Man, you hit the nail right on the head, Sony needs to stop shooting themselves in the foot! I don't see the point of responding to the people's comments though. It's a losing battle when you try to reason with the intellectually least common denominator.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 8:14 pm PT
I just keep hoping Sony isn't going to screw me, and they just keep doing it. If it wasn't for MGS4, I would have given up hope long ago.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 8:29 pm PT
Ok, I love this blog. make more like this one.
But truly, Sony needs to cut all the lame crap.
Also, I think they're riding the coat-tails of Nintendo, cuz I think they're releasing a Mii type thing, only more realistic and they've got the motion whatever. (Keyword; think, sorry people sometimes get on my case when i screw up info.) Bet they're gonna wait 2 more years to lower the price... X(
Posted Oct 6, 2007 9:11 pm PT
I have a few things to say. First off, Your awesome, and I love you. Haha's at the accent guy lol. Second and this is not directly at you per say - When I bought my PS3, I wanted a PS3 system. I wanted Movies in Blu ray/DVD, Free Multiplayer, HDMI, Internet access, good games I know and love, light weight controller, and a money saver. Pretty much what a computer is, but just a tad better. That's what i wanted. And thats what I got. So I for one, am a happy man, who plays his PS3 over his 360 with Halo3 (a major disappointment). And Lastly: you spelt Xbox wrong, but it really doesn't matter. Just wanted to point it out.
Thanks for the bloggage, I always love them lol.
Posted Oct 6, 2007 10:22 pm PT
I think Sony's real problem was that they underestimated how much momentum the Xbox built up torwards the end of the last generation. When the PS3 was launched Sony acted like they didn't even have to compete with the 360 (the next gen starts when WE say it starts mentality) and now its biting them in the butt. Its not too late for Sony to turn things around though, get the price down to $400 or so and get a few AAA exclusives and gamers will start taking the PS3 seriously. Until then just get a good dust cover for your PS3!
Posted Oct 6, 2007 10:37 pm PT
Very interesting and insightful...
Posted Oct 6, 2007 10:42 pm PT
When I just read the title of this, I knew it was about Sony.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 1:09 am PT
Ken Kutagari was Sony's god-damn foundation, without him, they crumble. I mean, he did come up with the ps3 and was criticized for it, but he would have helped them come out on top, just like the 2 previous generations he carried on his back. Now the company is apparently run by coke fiends or meth addicts or something because these decisions have no possible rationale to back them up.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 1:19 am PT
I agree very muchly (heheh, grammar) with this. I own one of these shiny boxes myself, and am proud of it, but the salt hits the wounds in the news department. Kinda like this:

"Yay, I've healed myself with this free item!

What?! It removes two of my Abilities for each use?!"

Sony is quite dim when it comes to stuff. The bodly announce it as if we'd be at least somewhat pleased about it. Sure, I don't mind that my PAL 60GB PS3 can't play Jak 1, Jak X, SSX Tricky and On Tour, but announcing a relatively more consumer-friendly console and taking out a great selling point is just plain stupid. Sony beats it's main rival, the 360, hands down in terms of Backwards Compatibility (the Wii, of course, does an awesome job as well).

I personally lucked out in my PS3 experience. I still live at home so I have no bills or anything to pay, so getting the PS3 was a matter of waiting patiently for pay to get to me. Sadly, not many people have this luxury, so the Price Drop is quite important.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 2:09 am PT
Very well writen and very good job debunking rediculous comments. It's kind of nice to see the writer of something actually confront some of the for lack of better terms, idiots on the site. Very well writen and great job debunking comments!

P.S
I am in the same boat as you with College, I can't afford a damn thing with tuition....and books!
Posted Oct 7, 2007 6:58 am PT
I hope Sony sorts things out soon. I have a Wii and would like another current gen console to go with it but I really don't wanna buy a 360. There's some decent games for it but I just find the actual console really annoying. I also don't like the whole 33% failure rate that I keep hearing about. The advantages to the PS3 are the (supposedly) better graphics, more features, a free (kinda) Blu Ray player and a few other things but on the downside, there's a real lack of great games at the moment and Sony are making mistake after mistake.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 7:19 am PT
Kudos...
Posted Oct 7, 2007 7:43 am PT
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Posted Oct 7, 2007 10:01 am PT
Two thumbs up Hiroki. I agree with you on every point here, but as a compliment, this is one of the best written articles I have come across, and being an English minor, I got alot of giggles reading your replies to the people who can't make use of proper spelling.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 10:01 am PT
Blue_Tape,
Microsoft has launched all of their AAA titles? Really?
Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Gears 2+3, Unreal Tournament 3, Devil May Cry 4, Mass-Effect, Assassin's Creed, Resident Evil 5, Fable 2, mind you, some of these are multiplatform, AAA titles non-the-less.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 10:06 am PT
Holy crap, you just summed up my position on the PS3 in the best way since I last summed it up ShenlongBo's editorial.

Honestly, look at the thing. $600 with a $500 version. Except the $500 version was almost non-existent and isn't made anymore, and it was somewhat gimped compared to the $600 PS3. But lo and behold, a price drop!!! ...Except, not really. Just phasing out the system to bring in a new one at the low, low price of... $600!!! But wait, this time it's justified! Yes, you can get the system with an 80 gig HDD and the subpar racer, Motorstorm! If that isn't a bargain then how about realizing that the best games on the system were either released once for the Xbox in 2004 (Ninja Gaiden), and the Xbox 360 in 2006 (Oblivion). Sure, they have bonus content and stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that they're old news. So, where's my justification for this thing? The only game that could make me want the PS3 is Shirokishi Monogatari/White Knight Story, the game looks amazing, but it won't be out until 2008 or 2009, and even then, wo knows if I can afford a PS3 or not.

By the way, Lawrence.com did their Lair Review by using the Reviewer's Guide... except, they made fun of the reviewer's guide. You should check it out, it's a great site, and totally safe if you're wondering.

As for BC, that's a huge selling-point to me. I never owned a PS1 or 2. But here I am, longing for Shirokishi Monogatari, and instead, I'm getting pushed away from the system.

Also, you forgot that, DualShock 3 WON'T BE PACKED IN WITH FUTURE PS3'S. IT WILL ONLY BE SOLD SEPERATELY. Yeah, try explaining that one to me.

I'm 18, a college student, I'm trying to decide if it's OK for me purchase a subscription to Xbox Live Gold right now, for either $20 or $50, but here's Sony saying that $600 is too low for the system (you forgot to mention that, too), and that I should work like a dog for it.

Don't get me wrong, Microsoft and Nintendo are rip us off just as much, though not as blatantly and with such disregard as this. However, you're blog wasn't about MS or Nintendo, so I'll keep them out. If you are interested in seeing what I have to say about them as well, you can just find my comment in ShenlongBo's most recent editorial.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 10:18 am PT
Amen. All these new versions of the console are scaring people away, I for one would be reluctant to buy a PS3 because they're may be another price cut in a few months.
Posted Oct 7, 2007 10:19 am PT
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