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Thursday, Nov 30, 2006

Come on, Bungie...

I flipped through the new batch of Halo 3 screenshots about three times and, much like the process of heat conduction, my excitement drained away into something like anger and frustration. Here's a shot of a couple of master chiefs jumping. Here's a Warthog. Here's a big, tower-like structure on a meadow near a mountain. It's all in higher resolution and shinier than ever before. It's like they did a brain-scan on everybody and delivered to them exactly, precisely the screenshots they would have most expected.

You know what makes Halo: Combat Evolved one of the greatest games of all time? It doesn't just play great; it surprised and even shocked people. It took some smart, calculated risks with its design and presentation. It might have looked like any other first-person shooter on the surface, but in many ways, it went against the grain.

I'd be an idiot to think Bungie wasn't holding back a ton of interesting information on Halo 3. But I just don't understand the value in releasing a bunch of screenshots such as these. I'm sure Halo's True Believers are swooning with excitement right about now, but how about the rest of us, the people who think Halo 3 is going to have a really tough time living up to the extremely high standards that have been set by games like Gears of War, F.E.A.R., and many others since Halo 2? Has Bungie painted itself into a corner by crafting such an elaborate fiction around Halo that it won't allow the company to take any creative liberties or design risks with the next installment? And yes, I did see the new little ATV buggy in that one screenshot. No, it doesn't count.

Take a page from Spider-Man 2, a movie that defied audiences' expectations, paradoxically by giving them precisely the pay-off that they most wanted but least expected from a big-budget Hollywood sequel. Show us an image of the Master Chief with his helmet half-shattered, exposing a glimpse of his determined, bloodied face behind it as he attempts a desperate last stand against a mysterious and extremely powerful enemy. Show us the Master Chief locked in a brutal hand-to-hand struggle or bulldozing a foe with his armored shoulder. I want to see kinetic action and intensity. The Halo series is rated M, remember?

I don't want to see what looks just like Halo 2 in higher-res with the same old rag-doll physics and a couple of predictable new weapons and vehicles. I don't want to see the Master Chief standing around, as much as I like the idea of having the assault rifle back. I want to be excited for this game. I'd love to see the Halo series become a real dynasty, not just something we look back on and see as the original Xbox's defining games, while the 360 earned its own, superior games.

Bungie is one of those developers that's succeeded through multiple generations of gaming technology, and successfully transitioned between many different platforms. I know those guys have played great games like The Chronicles of Riddick and Gears of War from top to bottom, and I know they must have a lot of great, original ideas of their own, since they always have. So I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that Halo 3 won't just go the safest, most obvious route by taking a squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease approach.

Category: Editorial
Posted by GregK, 12:22pm
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Hey Greg! You sound really excited about Halo 3, I mean, who isn't? When this game comes out I will probably get a 360.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:26 pm PT
You're right Greg, it all feels kind of samey, we need something new for Halo, something showing what will make this different from the previous titles... I hope the next set of pictures might show it...
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:27 pm PT
the screenshots looks awesome
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:33 pm PT
Didn't Bungie say that it was place-holder art? Also they're trying to get this done by november 07, of course they're gonna take a somewhat safe approach. Don't expect anything new from halo 3, just a game bigger and better than Halo 2 with very little innovation.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:33 pm PT
I'm hoping this game gives some good competition. Gears has blown me away, and I'm hoping this game will do the same.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:39 pm PT
Greg my man, you are (as allways) the voice of reason around these parts. I coulnd't agree more. Either Bungie are trying to keep about everything possible under wraps or they've just not got enough great things coded and ready yet.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:40 pm PT
Bungie seems to be pretty tight-lipped about the single-player campaign. Maybe they do have something mind-blowing to reveal.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:40 pm PT
Without making huge changes, Halo 3 CAN'T meet the expectations. It's like the PS3 in that it will sell out as fast as it can, regardless of reason. But it's not going to be great if it doesn't do a lot of things differently. I remember thinking the ghost was so cool in Halo 2, and a great surprise (among others), but there is it again in the screenshots, and more vehicles/weapons doesn't mean a better game. Put new moves in a Tony Hawk game, and it's still the same game. But where Tony Hawk 2 added the manual, and TH3 added the revert, Halo 3 needs to add some magicians or close-quarter combat, something that once you play with it you can't live without.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:44 pm PT
i agree with you greg, and forz, thats the point this game should offer up something new, this is the ifnal game of the series. It should go out with a bang, and should shatter fps gameplay as we know it, i don't want a carbon copy of halo 2, i want something new something crazy unexpected like greg said. i want an extraordinarily cinimatic final battle. perhaps a fist fight in fps it was fun in riddick. This game needs to earn its thrown as an amazing game it has high standards to live up to after gears of war, so i ho pe this game tries somethign new because the mechanics from halo and halo 2 have become dated and i know bungie can pull something out new and exciting, lets just hope they do it.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:45 pm PT
Oh man I hope Bungie reads this. Greg, when I read, "Show us an image of the Master Chief with his helmet half-shattered, exposing a glimpse of his determined, bloodied face behind it as he attempts a desperate last stand against a mysterious and extremely powerful enemy." my heart stopped. THIS is what I picture (but could not properly articulate) Halo 3 being; not the ho-hum, more of the same images we are getting. I really hope that Bungie is pulling a huge red herring with these "placeholder" graphics.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:49 pm PT
Once gameplay footage arrives, I think we'll all shut up about this.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:49 pm PT
For somebody not having played halo 1 or 2 I don't really feel compelled to learn more about it from the screenshots. It shows that it got multiplayer which is great but it doesn't really seem to set itself apart from a lot of other games out there.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:49 pm PT
I too find it rather odd to see almost nothing but what looks like high-resolution Halo 2 screenshots (the screenshot of the Master Chief next to a flipped out Warthog does look nice, but it doesn't really reveal anything beyond showing the game should look very nice). It seems like Bungie's just one of those few companies who can't let a small secret loose. Heck, I was expecting Halo 2 to be like the E3 2003 demo that just about everyone knows, yet it turned out having, like you said over 2 years ago (having a surprisingly short and disappointing campaign and storyline, or something along those lines), which did make me feel like Bungie wasn't taking the story and campaign as seriously as they should've (if I still play Halo: Combat Evolved more than Halo 2 and H:CE didn't even have online, you know something's up with just how good Halo 2 was). I think Halo 3 will potentially get "good" scores, I don't think we can expect anything less than an 8.5, but I just hope this is the big final chapter that they're hyping it up to be.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:53 pm PT
Halo 3 will have a lot of work ahead of it because A) It needs to make us forget that God aweful ending from Halo 2 and B) it needs to surpass Gears of War.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:55 pm PT
Totally agree. I don't even see the logic for releasing Halo 3 screens at this point, with Gears being so high profile. Especially when the Halo screens look like butt next to Gears.

I assume some marketing egghead inside Microsoft probably thought it'd be a good idea to remind people that, when they buy a system this holiday, remember that there's only one that will be getting Halo 3, and it'll be here next year.

Powerful statement, but totally ruined by the underwhelming shots. The one bright spot is that 1UP was a little letdown by the screens, but came back from Bungie singing a different tune. According to them, the game is flat- beautiful. At any rate, Halo 3 might as well be on a different planet right now as far as I'm concerned. There's far too many first-quarter games I'm looking forward to on the 360 to really care. But come fall, I'm gonna expect me some pretty Halo.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 12:56 pm PT
But all of those pics were already in EGM, so they're not even really "new" anyways..
Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:05 pm PT
The miracle of exclusivity makes it new to anyone who hasn't read the latest issue of EGM.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:15 pm PT
i couldn't agree more greg, i feel the same way

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Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:16 pm PT
Come on, Greg, they can't give all the goodies on jut one batch of screens. Screens for that type of game are always like that, they never show actual game-play.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:31 pm PT
C'mon, you shouldn't be judging the game by its pics. I did the same thing with Resistance, and what happened, 8.6! They do look a bit original to the last game, but this game could be perfect for all we know.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:35 pm PT
I'm interested Halo 3. I'm looking forward to finishing the fight. These screens however, leave me nonplussed. A definite increase in resolution but no indication of any kind of evolution.

More of the same, can be a double edged sword.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:39 pm PT
I am hoping that they improve the level design, I don't like alot of the multiplayer Halo or Halo 2 levels. Sure, Blood Gulch is good, I guess it's why everyone plays it, but I think one of the things that Gears gets right is that the Levels are nicely balanced, varied and are never bland.

Anyway, that's all I want from Halo 3. I didn't own an Xbox, so I have Halo 2 sat there waiting to be played and I played the first on the PC. So I will get to play this one at launch this time...which might be fun.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 1:47 pm PT
the new screens did suck....
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:00 pm PT
The screenshots are indeed boring, but Bungie have always kept secrets... well, secret. The game will hopefully have a few new surprises in it, but I think we've reached a point where there won't be a lot of new storyline elements, just a expansion of ideas from previous Halo games. After all, this is supposedly the last Halo.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:04 pm PT
Yeah man make something really cool and new but I think the story is going to be amazing just seeing the final chapter of a great large story, have you read any of the books I've read The Fall of Reach which is a prequel and then playing the games is just really amazing and enjoyable and the screenshots come on you have to admit they look really cool especially when the game hasn't had sreenshots in a while
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:10 pm PT
Some of those screens look more like the Xbox 360 Halo 2 exclusive content that's planned for 2007, not Halo 3. I hope I'm right....
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:21 pm PT
Hey Greg, just because Snake shoved a gun down his throat doesn't mean Bungie should reveal Master Chief's face simply for cheap thrills sake.

Seriously though, the screens are incredibly underwhelming, I think companies should either provide us with the real deal or just be fanatically quiet like Rockstar. I don't see much point in releasing these "meh" screenies at all.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:22 pm PT
"I don't want to see what looks just like Halo 2 in higher-res.." I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw these screens.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:24 pm PT
And what else is new Bungie is always secret about there project they are obviously hidding lots of info from us. As much as I want to play Halo 3 we really need to know more about the game which shouldn't be too hard Bungie just for some reason won't tell us.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:27 pm PT
totally agree with what you say sir kasavin
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:29 pm PT
Some of the screenshots indeed did look a little underwhelming, almost like a Halo 2 lookalike. But I'm not too worried, Bungie will get everything right before the game's release...I hope, because Microsoft can't afford to have Halo 3 flop.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:40 pm PT
Greg wrote:
So I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that Halo 3 won't just go the safest, most obvious route by taking a squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease approach.


Unfortunately I believe that's exactly what they will deliver. Halo is its own worst enemy. When we look back it won't be all the self-professed Halo-killers from other companies (Killzone, Resistance, etc.) that overcame the series, but Halo itself. It's become so big and expectations are so high that it's going to be damn near impossible to satisfy everyone. Of course I hope I'm wrong, but it's not implausible.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 2:44 pm PT
I hope this games comes out and blows us away, much like Gears of War. So far I'm not at all excited about Halo 3, I need more information on the story and I want to know what the new weapons are. Plus this game is multiplayer focused so I wouldn't expect anything better than Halo 2 story wise.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 3:01 pm PT
I can understand your point Greg, though heres what I think of it. If I am correct the first real screens we saw from halo 2 were very simular to these in a sence that they were mearly multiplayer scans, so the multi shots were predictable. But as regards your point of whether they are going to play it safe or do something different, I can see a bit of both, I can see the story taking a massive turn in which we wont expect, I can imagine the gameplay is going to be tightened up, with some enhancements such as new features like the mysterious X button and new controlls etc, but I also see the game being very different but also not too different, a bit in the middle is what I can see them doing, so they go forward but dont stray too far from what we know and love is Halo, though Im sure you will have nothing to worry about mate Im sure Bungie will deliver, microsoft will be making sure that this one does what fans expect it to do im sure.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 3:35 pm PT
This game looks as boring as the other two.The only thing I have ever loved about Halo is the incredible soundtrack.

Bad level design and plain weapons don't appeal to me.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 3:43 pm PT
despite what you say Greg i still think the screens are pretty cool and the game still has a bit more time to go in development so you never know whats in store so i wouldn't disregard Halo 3 yet (i don't think you where doing that but fellow commentors where).
Posted Nov 30, 2006 4:32 pm PT
I've been saying that since Gates and Microsoft said that Halo 3 would be released alongside the PS3. Microsoft is forcing Bungie is to release content to wet the mouths of the public and casuals. Those are the main people who Microsoft wants to appeal to, they don't care what hardcores say, because they know we care about reveiws and they know that we know that Bungie will make a AAA game.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 5:06 pm PT
Actually, you spoke my mind, because me and my friend were chatting and he thought he could surprise me with Halo 3 screenshots, since he's on IGN and GS 24/7. My simple response to them was "Why're they showing Halo 2 screenshots in the Halo 3 section?" I honestly wasn't kidding. And my other problem with the screenshots is that IGN seems to be taken by these. They noted that the structures looked almost excatly like the old games and that Bungie was maybe trying to get an intresting and sophisticated message through. Well "lol" to you IGN. "Lol". To. You.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 5:16 pm PT
Greg, you are so goddamn right! Halo 2 in my opion, was a disaster, and Halo IS one of the greatest games of all time because it dared to be different. Sure, the visuals weren't the best, but it was the gameplay that made Halo so legendary. Halo 2 merely took the easy way out, with shiny graphics (that really looked like crap) and few new addition to the gameplay. I am praying with all my might that Halo 3 does what Halo did. Halo 3 was the reason I bought an Xbox 360, and it better not let me down.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 5:32 pm PT
I agree with you
Posted Nov 30, 2006 5:44 pm PT
While I thought the original Halo was a good game, I hated Halo 2. Well, not "oh-my-god-I'm-going-to-crush-this-disc" hate, but more like "what-the-hell-is-this--three-years-for-dual-wielding?" I'm hoping Halo 3 can get the series back on track, but these latest screens seem to tell me they're mainly focusing on multiplayer. If you're going to make a game where you spend the majority of your time on multiplayer, then you should just make the entire game multiplayer and not include a craptastic singleplayer. It'll save on development time and cost.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 5:46 pm PT
The screens are incredibly underwhelming. Did we need Halo 2 screens to remind us that Bungie was hard at work on this crap? Can't they see everyone has been enjoying Gears? Do we need to have people still thinking about Halo when it's a year away? They're just drawing hype, moreso than showing off Halo 2 at E3 2 years in a row.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:03 pm PT
Absolutely Greg. Take it to the next level Bungie - the gaming community is tired of 'rehashed games with improved graphics'. You've got the talent - make it happen
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:18 pm PT
"[Halo: Combat Evolved] might have looked like any other first-person shooter on the surface, but in many ways, it went against the grain."

Keep your hopes up Greg, as you said, even if these newly released pictures just look like Halo 2 with a new coat of paint... as you said, it's not always what it looks like on the surface. I'm hopeful there are some big(ger) secrets up their sleeves... however, people that have high hopes for the single-player, remember that the first's was spectacular, and the 2nd; not so much. Leaving a ratio of 1:2, don't build your hopes too, too high.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:19 pm PT
Greg? I expected there to be no less than 7 Halos (6 sequals and the original) based on my initial impression of Halo:Combat Evolved when I finished racing to get off the planet in that Warthog and finally made it to the ship just as the ring exploded. So naturally I'm shocked that this is supposed to be the last one. They so could have had bots in this videogame series. I understand that the developers by now are probly getting a little tired if not annoyed with seeing the same thing day in and out. All the more reason for innovation right? Bots in multiplayer would help here. NPCs in multiplayer would help as well. Not to mention truly destructible environments that allow you to burrow into the ground. And how about those promises that were made in HALO 2 about how your NPC buddies would turn tables and such over and use them for cover in a fire fight. Granted they delivered on the vehicle jacking and the NPCs driving vehicles too promise. But what about the cover and the destructible environment? I really could care less about riding dinos... Why ride dinos in a HALO game? Save that for TUROK!
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:24 pm PT
I agree completely, I'd rather see the Master Chief doing a Call of Duty 3-ish style battle with a Brute, or his mask half shattered (cheap way of actually seeing his face ) and a face of determination, but what I'd really like to see is pictures of the new guns. Some nice quality high-res shots of the Battle Rifle, Assault Rifle, Sniper Rifle etc. Just to get a look at how they enhanced the finer details of the games graphics.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:34 pm PT
I am holding out for the "making of the screen shots" video that is bound to follow.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:35 pm PT
"Has Bungie painted itself into a corner by crafting such an elaborate fiction around Halo that it won't allow the company to take any creative liberties or design risks with the next installment?" you have said the one thing that's been bothering me the past couple of months since the Halo 3 teaser trailer at E3. I think right now, Bungie wants to not attract attention by releasing very mediocer material for press publications, but...... I don't know if it's the press or fans who swoop this up and report about this and make it a headline? Who is really making all the hype over these screen shots and trailers? Why should I be excited about them? I mean to be fair, I'm not a halo fan. But I did buy the comic, and I thought that was everything I would want and the games don't live up to that sense of action, drama and style. I just am growing more and more pessmistic about this game, Halo 3 isn't being sold for the masses, it's being targeted to those devoted fanbase.
Posted Nov 30, 2006 6:50 pm PT
Ok, i know Gears of War will always be compared to the Halo games, but it's not really fair to compare them when they are completely different games, no matter how Halo 3 turns out most all the Halo fan boys and girls will get it. I for one think it will be fun even if it plays just like Halo 2. Also, i'm personaly more intrested in the final part of the Story and how it ends, but thats just me lol
Posted Nov 30, 2006 7:02 pm PT
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