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Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007

A couple of weeks ago I received a few comments about my fanboy test and after reading them I lost 20 IQ points. It seems that people wanted to prove that I was right by systematically illustrating every one of the points I made. The resulting responses were so unreal that I started to think that some comments were a high form of satire that surpassed my intellect. The most mind boggling were the fanboys that just started listing off console war talking points ignoring the entire point of the article. This is probably evidence that the gaming corporations employ robots to respond to every comment section with randomly generated fanboy gibberish. Obviously the corporations haven't yet programmed the robots to use capital letters or punctuation yet.

Wal-Mart PS3 Fanboy

I was accused of being a PS3 fanboy which was interesting because I never said anything positive about the PS3. This maybe be a metaphysical argument but does one have to own a PS3 to be a PS3 fanboy? The only time I have played a PS3 is the demo of MotorStorm in a Wal-Mart after some kid was slapped away kicking and screaming by their mumu wearing parent. (For the international readers, Wal-Mart is a store where parents with mullets are required to beat their kids until they can be heard from the other side of the kilometer sized store.)

I regret to write this because it will make some fanboy way too happy, but I have had a lot of fun with a 360 controller in my hands. The thing about the 360 being almost ubiquitous is that I have no need to buy one. I can go to somebody's house and play through the awesomeness of Gears of War and save myself $460. I'll probably get a 360 later when games for it become cheaper and Microsoft makes a machine that stops making noises like a gerbil is getting tortured inside. I could list the reasons why I would want to buy a 360 but the corporate robot fanboys will inevitably list the reasons for me in the comments section below.

Bias Is Everywhere

Some people think that I was hypocritical to play as a fanboy in my test. The truth is that I originally tried to write the editorial without a bias but I was really left with two choices:

1) Write the editorial completely without illustrating examples and make it really boring.

2) Try to write it using examples from each console exploding it into five pages of redundancy.

Either way I was sure some fanboy would see some kind of bias in it.

It seems like calling bias is something people do when they don't want their brain to hear any truth. This is something you see in politics all of the time with all sides of the political spectrum calling the media biased when they report something they don't like. If a politician starts to bash puppies with baseball bats, the supporters start talking that the media is biased and they don't report on all of the times he doesn't eat babies. If you read the comments here at Gamespot, you see people claiming Gamespot is biased just for reporting the information they don't want to hear. Just because a number assigned by an editor at GameSpot for an enemy system's game is higher than your systems game, doesn't mean you should fill up the comments section with your conspiracy theory on GameSpot receiving bribes. After watching any GameSpot video featuring the staff, you would know by the clothes (obviously acquired at truck stops) that they aren't getting suitcases of cash from Microsoft.

Fanboy versus Non-Fanboy

One of the things that amazed me in the response was that people tried to put me in a "anti-fanboy" group. Will all of the PS3/WII/Xbox fanboys band together to fight the "anti-fanboys"? Ugh. No, I really don't care. Sure fanboys have made reading comments on Gamespot and other gaming sites a complete waste of time, but it really doesn't bother me. The reason I had the link to the Dufur was to say that genocide gets me more upset than some fanboy's waste of Internet space but not upset enough to get off my butt from playing video games all day. I made a mistake by making the ending a little too crass when the intention was to be humorous but I have a feeling fanboys would not have found anything funny anyway.

One of my goals of the editorial, although highly unlikely achieved, was that somebody would realize that they shouldn't be so close minded and maybe they would grow up and not be one of the many ignorant people we have roaming this earth. Sure it is a harmless gaming console fight but in reality that person is/will probably be irrational about a lot of things and probably contribute to the mental pollution that afflicts this world.

Obvious Fanboyality

Another mistake is that lack of subtlety in my test. My original intention was to just dribble in a little bit of Xbox trashing. The thing I realized while writing is that being a jerk is really intoxicating. It was so much fun pretending to be a PS3 fanboy that it got out of hand. I entered the mind of the fanboy and it was scary.

No Bullying Zone

I wanted to make fun of some individual comments really bad but I don't believe in bullying. I did snoop on some profiles and I found one fanboy (the number of comments will keep him anonymous) who only submitted one editorial and here is the entire text of the poetry titled "PS3 is garbage, Deal with it":

Heres what you do; get a box of wine and all your credit cards. Drink said wine and cut up your cards for making such a stupid purchase. And that ladies and gentlemen is how you "Deal with it".

He claimed not to understand my editorial. I do believe him.

Category: Editorial
Posted by FriedConsole, 10:42pm
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Another good read
Posted Nov 27, 2007 11:41 pm PT
unfortunately, telling a fanboy not to be a fanboy is like telling a scrub not to be a scrub.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 12:03 am PT
===

It seems that people wanted to prove that I was right by systematically illustrating every one of the points I made. The resulting responses were so unreal that I started to think that some comments were a high form of satire that surpassed my intellect. ===

Haha, exactly! I even had that same response to one the comments. It was like... are you TRYING to prove him right and make yourself look stupid?

Oh ho ho, this is going to be fun. Time for some pop corn.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 12:55 am PT
"mental pollution"
Does it harm the seals too?
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:35 am PT
Who gives a turd about Fanboys. Just ignore them. They're not real people anyway. Like emos.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 2:46 am PT
I didn't read all of this because I got the gist pretty fast and your last outing in word land was garbage. Which brings me to my point really, people rise to what they are given. You got a lot of "interesting" comments because what you wrote was "interesting". Please feel free to substitute whatever word you like with "interesting" the more foul and derogatory the better.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 2:49 am PT
Most of us get some critisism when we write in the soapbox, but we just have to roll with whatever people think of it. Ive found the concensus on gamespot is generally right most of the time, so if your getting negative feedback, just take it on the chin and learn from the mistakes of that editorial.
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If you want to retort, than do so in the comment box. We can shout louder than others because we have the soapbox, the comments section is the price we have to pay. Dont abuse the ability to stand on the soapbox by posting essays counter-arguing or validating points about an older article most people didnt argue about.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 3:03 am PT
I agree with Danny , It's nice to see you've taken some points on board that you laid it on a bit think with the anti 360 comments , unfortunately you undermined your arguement in doing so .. which is a shame because had it just been a couple of subtle digs for you then to reveal them as intentional at the end of your text it would have been a great eye opener for some... unfortunately the impact turned out to be very watered down. On your point of are you able to be a fanboy when you don't own a console ... well I've not got any of the next gen consoles .. but i certainly have my leanings to which one i prefer .. and on current/ last gen I've got all 4 ( GC,PS2,XB , DC ) and certainly took a defensive stance when PS2 fanboys got into a rant about how the xbox is rubbish .. blah blah blah. I think the biggest point is that we need to focus on games rather than systems so for me irrespective the machines it's Resident evil 4 , Strangers Wrath , Psychonauts, Locoroco, Mario, Metroid, Fire Pro and SWOS that I'll be a fanboy over ... and when it comes to games it's all about sharing the love you have for that game rather than hating another
Posted Nov 28, 2007 3:36 am PT
Well, my only objection with the original piece was that the ending was too crass, as you put it well, and you acknowledged that that threw off the humor... so I guess I can't say anything except "nice follow up!". PSwii60 4 life.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 4:46 am PT
Your original "test" failed horribly. It was a thinly veiled attack on Xbox360 Fanboys and most people with a brain saw right through your "test".

IMO, this new editorial is little more than damage control. Also, this new editorial comes off as arrogant & preachy.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:16 am PT
"A couple of weeks ago I received a few comments about my fanboy test and after reading them I lost 20 IQ points."

This is exactly why your last post was poorly recieved; not because of the content, but because of your blatant unfounded condescension. I would take a fanboy over an elitist any day. It's difficult to continue reading your post after your childish little rant in the first paragraph, in which you all but claim to be worlds above all other life-forms.

Having said that, I enjoyed the ending of this article :-)
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:25 am PT
@dannyodwyer - I didn't take any of the responses to heart. I have posted on the Internet before. I know most people will tell you are trash everytime. :-)

I had a huge response to my last editorial and I thought I could make an entertaining follow-up. I think if someone can write something entertaining for themselves and others for the SoapBox they should do so. I am obviously not spending time meticulously editing my editorials for a paycheck.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:26 am PT
good editorial. I think i'm going to quit reading response columns. Too depressing. So much lack of personal thought... Seems they can't really think for themselves and instead rely on the only thing that they know: They are awesome, thus, their choice of console is genius and the choice of others is stupid
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:35 am PT
i like to practice this thing called tolerence. i may not like other things but i don't have to hate them.

But i try to love both my 360 and PS3 equaly. but it's easier said then done.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:54 am PT
@ ck02623-- LOL i don't care if you think he's an Elitist the man is comic genius! Having said that, if this is what an "Elitist" is than i would rather have to "deal" with this than some non-sensical fanboy moron.
At least this stuff is funny.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:57 am PT
Your post is funny- But so was the wine and credit cards guy's post.
You'd think that getting 300+ comments on your post would at least stroke your ego, though. Didn't you feel any pride in it? Even if you got a lot of comments from jackals?
Posted Nov 28, 2007 6:24 am PT
Standing above headless chickens clawing at each others 'heads' is too easy.

Trying to stop them from doing something so silly is beyond impossible, you might lose your own head in the process.

There are plenty games on every system to enjoy. One might not have the money to appreciate all of it, but its good to know they are out there. Its better to ignore the guys who just spoil the fun and play some games!

The Fanboy test was funny though. And the idiotic comments made it funnier some how...
Posted Nov 28, 2007 6:41 am PT
I generally enjoy your editorials, but I am inclined to agree with dannyodwyer on this one. Don't let that discourage you from writing, though. These experiences make us not only better writers, but better people.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 7:42 am PT
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Posted Nov 28, 2007 8:30 am PT
And no, I don't use spell check.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 8:31 am PT
I did feel offended a bit by the stuff you said in the last Fanboy test you made, but does that really make me a fanboy? I feel the same way when someone insults the PS3 and Wii also. I think they're all great systems with different things about them that make them awesome. Does that make me a fanboy of all three systems, even though I only own one of those? Anyway, I take no offense in being called a fanboy. Hell, I even willingly call myself an FF7-fanboy.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 9:32 am PT
Hahaha. Pimponaholiday, you might want to consider spell check... and some grade 3 grammar and spelling lessons while you are at it. And really, you call fanboys "so damn idiotic" then say "fanboyism is healthy for us".

Good read, although everyone takes this too seriously. Let fanboys be fanboys. Sure they are annoying and most times stupid, but they are entitled to be as stupid as they feel they need to be. That's what America is all about after all.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 9:50 am PT
Oh, the hurt feelings and sad sulking going on in the comments....

The guy made an incendiary editorial that made good points and got exactly the kind of reaction that illustrated those points, and you actually think he's sincerely admitting "mistakes"? He didn't really make any mistakes. The ridiculous comments his last editorial received show the editorial's success, not failure.

"Take it on the chin"? Are you serious?
Posted Nov 28, 2007 10:08 am PT
The "elitist" and "condescending" comments are synonymous with "Are you trying to say you're smarter than me?" which is usually the response that people take up once they've been thoroughly outdone logically and semantically.

Plato's dialogues found Socrates commenting on the nature of people who think they are smart and those who actually are. The difference between the two? The people who aren't think they are. The people who are know they aren't. Socrates showed people that and pissed off the "not-smart" people so bad that he was killed for it (as they were usually politicians or people in power). Much like this guy's getting killed now. There's no rebuttle for obvious and valid points, so the result is childish finger pointing and lame insults.

Close-minded is the only state of mind that should be categorized as a disease and a crime.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 10:15 am PT
I'm pretty sure I left a satriical comment highlighting the points you had made but discredited them by showing your grammatical errors. That was fun. The last fanboy test was hilarious. This was pretty funny too. I had no idea that when I bought my PS3 that I would get drafted to fight in the console wars.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 10:24 am PT
I have but one question. Did you ever get your 20 IQ points back?
Posted Nov 28, 2007 11:15 am PT
The things you say about fanboys is so true and so obvious. I only started writing responses on this site a short time ago but, I cant tell when a comment I make will be ridiculed or praised. Such as another article questioning if the sells of the PS3 40gig in Japan were signs of a turn around for sony I stated facts of why I thought it wasnt going to be a string of good luck for sony and, my rating for that comment went down then up and, down again. May it was simply too long, too negative or, too true for PS3 gamers to accept. PS3 fanboy "lets stomp out this 360 or, nintendo fanboy by manipulated the facts with personal opinions another person with a gamespot account took it upon himself to try to prove I was wrong. When a PS3 has gone from being sold at a $250 loss to a $350 loss and, is out sold by the other major brands by more then 2/1 is it so strange I would think the PS3 was bad!
Posted Nov 28, 2007 11:23 am PT
Of course fanboys can have their fun arguing with each other on system wars or any forum of such, BUT!

The problem is that they litter other forums with their biased rants and make a proper discussion about a game or console impossible.

Its an annoyance that is neither constructive or hilarious. It makes everything devolve into a headless chicken fight with no direction for the thread. I'm pretty tired of such posts when all I want is some viable information.

By the way, its not always bad to be a fanboy... as in no matter what the general consensus is you enjoy a particular franchise because you are a fan of it, you like a certain hardware brand because you have a positive inclination towards that brand.

For example, I prefer Playstation over X-box(Hardware comparison) , Half-Life 2 over Halo 3 (Software comparison). This however doesn't mean that I can bash others opinions on something and blindly follow a personal opinion.

I played Halo 3 on my cousin's 360 and had fun playing it over live against others. I understand why millions of people would play it online . Co-op also was enjoyable also. But with all of that said, I still prefer Half-Life 2. Is there really a reason to bash Halo 3 due to my love for HL2? No.

As for the PS3 and the Xb360... I have particular franchises I follow for Sony (Gran Turismo 5 being #1), and find that the games I'm interested in for the 360 can usually be purchased for the PC (Have a decent rig that can play Crysis). I have yet to purchase a PS3 due to a lack of a personal system selling software however.

Fanboys who respect other hardware, franchises, and genres aren't the ones in question here. Its the ones who just don't broaden their perspectives, limit themselves into a raging loyalty for no reason (corporation zombies?), and well act like 'headless chickens'.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 11:38 am PT
great continuation
Posted Nov 28, 2007 12:42 pm PT
This guy reminds me of a CBS news reporter. He almost grasps the concept of what he's reporting on but just misses the point enough to make himself look like an idiot.

I can't say the article is good. I suppose it's somewhat entertaining, despite a lack of substance.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 12:59 pm PT
Oh, and I think SpongeBob Lame Game Pants is the greatest play on words, if you can call it that, I've ever heard.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:03 pm PT
i couldn't care less of fanboyism, i just didn't like your article because it didn't think things through properly, especialy the bit about using sales as a point of attack and being a slave to the corperation

i use sales to see how well my consel is doing, if it doesn well i can expect more third party participation, there is nothing wrong with that

as a HBComm student i know full well that they don't care about me, i don't expect that and i don't want that. i want them to know how to make money, because then tey will know how to get me to give them my money. and the law of supply and demand states that if i am giving them money then i am getting something for it that is worth the money i was willing to part with.

that makes me happy

i dismissed your article as a blatent excuse to let off some steam and make fun of people all the while improving your own self immage by thinking that your better then most because your to mature to fall prey to these petty gaming wars.

"This is probably evidence that the gaming corporations employ robots to respond to every comment section with randomly generated fanboy gibberish. Obviously the corporations haven't yet programmed the robots to use capital letters or punctuation yet." now that i think of it, wasn't there somthing about charecter assasination in your very own post?

oh and as for the no bullying policy, i give you permission to disregard it for this post
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:05 pm PT
Your work is admirable, and I commend you for your tenacity, but you're fighting a losing battle. The more you write, the more cannon fodder you give fanboys for their twisted, illogical responses. It's a pretty sad cycle, because they just never seem to see that what their saying makes absolutely no sense.

That aside, this is a brilliant article, as was the original one you wrote. The biggest problem most people really seem to have is realizing simply having a preference doesn't make a fanboy. For example, as far as consoles go, I prefer the 360, but I don't let that get in my way of saying the Wii is a good, if not underused and overgimmicked machine, and the PS3 has a bright future. It's all a matter of differentiating between personal choice, and trying to force that choice on everyone else.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:11 pm PT
Another great editorial, I thought the first one was brillant and this one is too. I refused to post on the last one because I knew the onslaught of comments that fanboys would write. And in a sad but funny kind of way so many people made it a point to prove him right. Thus failing the test, and reinforcing the idea of fanboys being idiots or morons. I can really never see anything positive from fanboyism as it causes me to get angry when i see someone spewing their fanboy rethoric. Which is why i avoid the SW forum completely.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:12 pm PT
to me, games are the priority and the hardware is secondary. At the same time, all rules have to be put in balance with real world factors and in the case of 360's reliability, while it isn't where i would like it to be, it didn't bother me enough to miss out on all of the games i've enjoyed (Oblivion, Dead Rising, Gears, orange box, and yes halo). that sentence would have knocked 25 points off a research paper for being a run-on, but this isn't a research paper so as long as it communicates my point, i don't care.

oh and on that note, what's wrong with not capitalizing? Who cares about capitalization in here? isn't this sort of thing supposed to be casual? (i understand in writing an article like yours, you would want to be more formal)

My actual opinion of your article goes in with what someone else wrote. Good content, but nobody likes a jerk. i know you meant to act the way you did for a point, but that doesn't mean it's enjoyable to read. their's no need to belittle and make fun of anyone either(unless in good humor-this article didn't feel like it was in good humor).

i also fail to see the point in giving such thought to fanboys. they don't deserve it. to me they don't even create much of a problem. just avoid them. don't comment in their topics, don't bother arguing with them.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:30 pm PT
bias is a persons point of few, everyone is biased, the problem is when you are biased without reason
Posted Nov 28, 2007 1:35 pm PT
I think a lot of fanboys got mad because you put them on a pedestal and then called them morons. Hence, angry responses. I understand that the 360 trashing was just part of a the test, but I did get a little irritated until I read the end. But you just seem so sure of yourself...It rubs me the wrong way.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 2:39 pm PT
"fanboyism is healthy for us gamers"

@Pimponaholiday: So being a idiotic fanboy is healthy for us? Makes sense(I'm being sarcastic BTW).
Posted Nov 28, 2007 3:00 pm PT
I really don't understand this "fanboy" thing, People defend a console as if it was their creation! I don't really like to post comments but rather read all the petty arguments most seem to enjoy having here. Makes me chuckle! People should just enjoy each console for what each has to offer. Good read though.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 3:16 pm PT
You're a PS3 fanboy, telling everybody how bad it is to like the X Box?

How's that supposed to work?

Just part of what makes gaming so much fun today, I guess...
Posted Nov 28, 2007 3:56 pm PT
a dissapointment, i was hoping for some people to openly disagree with the things that i was saying, so that i could feel "edgy" and "smart", i guess not everybody gets the same response as fried console
Posted Nov 28, 2007 4:04 pm PT
I must say, had the original article not been a test, but an actual, true article, I would have glady called you a hypocrite. As it is now, I understand what you are trying to do and I maintain an indifferent stance.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 4:35 pm PT
I thought normal people got past fanboyism by now. Why does this issue persist!
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:24 pm PT
Wow, nice article Mr.Pretentious. I liked how you talked down a large group of people to make yourself feel superior.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:31 pm PT
Yurik says, "He didn't really make any mistakes. The ridiculous comments his last editorial received show the editorial's success, not failure."

Now that's classic! I'll be sure to bookmark it.

The only thing that Friedconsole succeeded in when he said that people would attack his previous editorial was that predicted he was going to upset people. Any conclusion other than that is simply false and misguided and would require a scientific method to establish.

For me, my main gripe with that editorial, as well as this one, is the tone. It comes off as condescending. I'm mean really, what is somebody of such high caliber, like Friedconsole, doing at a supposedly white trash infested Wal-Mart in the first place...let me guess, he made a guest appearance to sign autographs for all the barefoot hillbillies who idolize Dale Earnhardt.

Don't get me wrong. I say that half jokingly because I'm sure he's only using the Walmart example as comic relief. Anyways, I do like his editorials. Keep em coming Friedconsole. And Friedconsole Jr., just sit there and enjoy your pop corn.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 5:32 pm PT
I read both of your editorials, and they were good reads. I'm not quite sure why people are fanboys, but they always will be here. Some people just need to hate something. The funny part is that I read the entire fanboy test, and had to go back and skim through again to find that...yep, you did do a good job at being a PS3 fanboy. I didn't really notice the first time to be honest, until I read the ending paragraph. My only problem with your two blogs is this; in your first article, you listed this: Character Assassination, and listed "They must be wrong if their icon, name, grammar or previous comments were stupid," as a problem with fanboys. Then in your second article, you said "Obviously the corporations haven't yet programmed the robots to use capital letters or punctuation yet." Now granted, you might think what they are saying is stupid, but you just picked on the people's grammar, and that was a problem you listed. Then main problem is that you listed this as a problem when you were faking to be a fanboy...and then used it when trying to prove the comments useless and stupid. I see your point and I do hope that even one fanboy would see that you do have one...but don't muddle your point by reaching for the same insult you claim to be a problem.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 6:01 pm PT
Unfortunately, this follow-up isn't nearly as funny as the original. Unless you are subtley digging at the "super-vulcan" fanboys... that is the ppl that only listen if you make perfect logic. Then, it's GENIUS.

IMHO, if we would all just learn some simple logic rules in elementary school, we could avoid a lot of this communicating w/o communicating crap. For example, can we please do away with the argument of "because I own all systems, I am unbiased". Not only does it sound preachy, but the fact that you own all systems only means you own all systems, nothing to do with being unbiased... and that you have a truckload of money lying around, which in and of itself could disqualify you from speaking for the masses.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 6:07 pm PT
Also, what does it matter that this is on soapbox. Last time I checked, a soapbox was for ANYONE to say ANYTHING to a lot of ppl, even a continuation to a previous post. If it was reserved only for special ppl to talk, it wouldn't be a soapbox, it would be a gilded pedestal adorned with crystal angels and bathed in sunlight 24/7 using giant mirrors in orbit around the world. C'mon! There have been SEVERAL continuation posts on soapbox.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 6:12 pm PT
That was a great article. I really agree with you on the fact that fanboys, and people in general, should be more open minded. There would be alot less violence and other uncool things. Its really not a hard thing to do people.
Posted Nov 28, 2007 6:18 pm PT
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